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Just Asking… Cherry Jones (On Violence and Torture, First Female President on "24", McCain Cameo)
WSJ ^ | NOVEMBER 20, 2008, 11:36 P.M. ET | By MICHELLE KUNG

Posted on 11/21/2008 7:23:35 AM PST by fight_truth_decay

Cherry Jones has over 30 years of theater experience, Tony Award-winning performances in "Doubt" and "The Heiress." A self-described "newbie" when it comes to television, the 51-year-old actress is taking on the role of U.S. president Allison Taylor on Fox's action-drama "24" debuts this Sunday with "24: Redemption," setting the stage for the show's two-night premiere Jan. 11-12.

Jones spoke to The WSJ about the politics behind "24," ..

WSJ: How did you land this role?

Jones: I got a call from my agent that the boys at "24" wanted to meet me. Because I work in the theater predominantly at night, I had never seen the show and quickly watched some episodes. I was instantly intrigued, although quite honestly, violence and torture has never exactly been my favorite form of entertainment. But I grew up on "The Man From U.N.C.L.E.", "Mission: Impossible", "I've always loved espionage thrillers and the moment I was introduced to Jack Bauer, I became his..."

WSJ: During the past season of "24," the show came under attack for its heavy use of torture. Was that a consideration when debating the offer?

Jones: It absolutely was -- I didn't have any guarantees. But I certainly got a sense from the fellows I met with that this was something that they were going to be addressing. I also know that it's an hour-long espionage thriller and the producers have gone on record saying that Kiefer needed to go do a PSA at West Point, because a lot of cadets coming in were using his [character's] techniques as examples of what they would do under pressure to get information. So I think it's very difficult for the writers; I think they want to do the right thing, but it's also a boy espionage thriller.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 24; cherryjones
Snips from:

Jack's back: The clock ticks for 24's antihero..

"Fans of 24's unique blend of violence, tension and breakneck action can rejoice; a TV special is about to hit our screens, and 'day seven' follows. But is the world turning against a show whose questionable ethics appear to condone torture?

By Robert Hanks, UK The Independent Friday, 21 November 2008

24 has made Kiefer Sutherland a megastar; he's paid a reported $10m a year, has been nominated for an Emmy for every season, and has taken home a dozen other awards, from Teen Choice and MTV to the Screen Actors' Guild and a Golden Globe."

"On Monday night, after a long delay occasioned by the screenwriters' (SAG) strike in America, Bauer returns in a two-hour special, 24: Redemption, setting the scene for a fully fledged series that begins in January. That's redemption for Jack Bauer, now exiled in Africa, atoning for some of the sins committed in previous series by helping an old comrade who now runs a school for former child-soldiers; but redemption too, maybe, for a television show that has started to lose (?) some of its shine, with complaints from fans and critics about repetitive, convoluted and unconvincing story-lines and a swelling growl of discontent at the viciousness of the show's underlying morality."

"In November 2006, the dean of West Point military academy and a team of experts on interrogation visited the set of the programme to air their concern that the show was promoting unethical behaviour, making it more difficult for them to train soldiers and law-enforcement officers in legal and, just as much to the point, effective interrogation techniques. They were convinced that the popularity of the show among the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq had contributed to a readiness to abuse prisoners; from CTU to Abu Ghraib isn't, after all, such a long journey."

"The show's makers defend it as pure and obvious fantasy, but the notion that its influence is wider than that has some high-level support. Laura Ingraham, another influential right-wing radio host, said that Jack Bauer's popularity was "as close to a national referendum that it's OK to use tough tactics against high-level al-Qa'ida operatives as we're going to get". The lawyer John Yoo, involved in drafting the so-called "torture memos" used by the Bush administration, has mentioned 24 and the threat of an imminent nuclear blast in the course of an argument about torture. At a 2006 conference held by the conservative Heritage Foundation under the title "24 and America's Image in Fighting Terrorism: Fact, Fiction, or Does It Matter?", the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, said that perseverance like Jack Bauer's would help America defeat terrorism."

"Jack also has time for killing people. According to the website www.bauercount.com, Jack's death toll stands at 185 people killed in six, very busy, days. Jack's somewhat cavalier attitude towards killing (writes The Independent) can be traced to former 24 producer and show runner Joel Surnow, a self-described "right-wing nutjob", who quit the show early this year."

"If Surnow was unashamedly right-wing in his beliefs, his co-producer and chief writer Howard Gordon prefers to call himself "a left-leaning centrist". It is perhaps no surprise to learn that, with Gordon in sole charge, both 24: Redemption and the new, seventh series will focus on whether or not Jack has to answer for his "torture first, answer questions later" attitude."

"McCain might not have been elected Commander in Chief earlier this month, but the Republican candidate had a blink-and-you'll-miss it cameo in series five. The senator for Arizona pops up to hand a folder to Audrey."

More Jack's Back

The Question being.."Will we now be witness to a More Sennnsitive & Sannnatized Jack Bauer?

Will the Libs also target: Vince Flynn (Mitch Rapp), Ted Bell(Alex Hawke), Lee Child (Jack Reacher) and other Best Selling espionage/thriller genre authors as well?


1 posted on 11/21/2008 7:23:36 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
"In November 2006, the dean of West Point military academy and a team of experts on interrogation visited the set of the programme to air their concern that the show was promoting unethical behaviour, making it more difficult for them to train soldiers and law-enforcement officers in legal and, just as much to the point, effective interrogation techniques. They were convinced that the popularity of the show among the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq had contributed to a readiness to abuse prisoners; from CTU to Abu Ghraib isn't, after all, such a long journey."

Is this true? First I've heard of it.....

2 posted on 11/21/2008 7:29:40 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan
Tony Award-winning performances in "Doubt"

What an outstanding play.

The movie version is coming out soon. I am sure it won't do it justice, though.

3 posted on 11/21/2008 7:35:33 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: fight_truth_decay

“...If Surnow was unashamedly right-wing in his beliefs...”

As if being right-wing is, by definition, something to be ashamed of.

The left has certainly perfected the subtle misuse of our language to reinforce their idiotic ideology.


4 posted on 11/21/2008 7:39:00 AM PST by Pravious
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To: fight_truth_decay
It is perhaps no surprise to learn that, with Gordon in sole charge, both 24: Redemption and the new, seventh series will focus on whether or not Jack has to answer for his "torture first, answer questions later" attitude.

So basically, they're going to kill the show with all sorts of politically correct hand-wringing and self-loathing on the part of Jack.

"24" jumps the shark.
5 posted on 11/21/2008 7:44:34 AM PST by Deo volente (On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The old cliché is that no publicity is bad publicity, but every single article I read about this movie makes me want to watch it less and less.

Jack Bauer is going to start questioning his sexuality by mid-season, during intimate and emotional scenes with Powers Boothe.

6 posted on 11/21/2008 7:50:34 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Ops? Seems Jack misunderestimated Obamah Mania?

Was he anticipating a Hillary presidency?

7 posted on 11/21/2008 7:53:53 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: fight_truth_decay

She is an excellent actress. You won’t see her on tv but she is highly regarded in the theatre. BTW she is also gay.


8 posted on 11/21/2008 8:01:27 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Deo volente
Before returning to America, Jack will have to attend an Hussein Obamah Re-Education camp and after that and an Algore hippie Mother-Earth commune.

Jack will learn that diplomacy works far better than being mean and that America, like himself, must answer to the United Nations for its wicked past.

9 posted on 11/21/2008 8:13:14 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: fight_truth_decay
I posted this in the Official 24 weekly thread at the first of November:

24 season 7 trailer out!



"So help me God I will kill you, and you will stay dead this time!"

And Jack Bauer means it! Season seven of Fox's 24 has been cooking for a long time now; the last new episode of the thriller aired (let's check our calendars) way back in May…of 2007. Thanks a lot, writers strike!

Things get back on course early next year, and season seven--barring any nuclear threats from terrorist sleeper cells--is due to kick off in January (producers actually used the time off to improve the show, they said). To prepare for the series' return, Fox has released a two-minute long trailer (watch it here on TV.com - http://www.tv.com/video/15353/season-seven-trailer ), and it's full of what 24 fans have come to expect--explosions, guns, guns, guns, split-screen trickery, espionage, and Jack Bauer screaming at dudes.

Producers haven't been keeping details on season seven top-secret. We know that season seven takes place in Washington D.C., features a new female president (played by Cherry Jones), and sees Jack Bauer not working with the CTU for the first time.

Don't forget that seasons six and seven will be bridged by 24: Redemption, a special made-for-television movie that airs November 23.

Source: TV.com
10 posted on 11/21/2008 8:24:40 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TexasCajun
Seems Jack misunderestimated Obamah Mania?

Was he anticipating a Hillary presidency?


No, 24 has already been there --- with not one, but two, President Palmers.
11 posted on 11/21/2008 8:28:46 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Pravious; Rummyfan; TomGuy
Is this true? First I've heard of it.....

NewYorker.com back in February 19, 2007.

.....The office desk of Joel Surnow—the co-creator and executive producer of “24,” Whatever It Takes The politics of the man behind “24.”

CLIP

This past November, U.S. Army Brigadier General Patrick Finnegan, the dean of the United States Military Academy at West Point, flew to Southern California to meet with the creative team behind “24.” Finnegan, who was accompanied by three of the most experienced military and F.B.I. interrogators in the country, arrived on the set as the crew was filming. At first, Finnegan—wearing an immaculate Army uniform, his chest covered in ribbons and medals—aroused confusion: he was taken for an actor and was asked by someone what time his “call” was.

In fact, Finnegan and the others had come to voice their concern that the show’s central political premise—that the letter of American law must be sacrificed for the country’s security—was having a toxic effect. In their view, the show promoted unethical and illegal behavior and had adversely affected the training and performance of real American soldiers. “I’d like them to stop,” Finnegan said of the show’s producers. “They should do a show where torture backfires.”

The meeting, which lasted a couple of hours, had been arranged by David Danzig, the Human Rights First official. Several top producers of “24” were present, but Surnow was conspicuously absent. Surnow explained to me, “I just can’t sit in a room that long. I’m too A.D.D.—I can’t sit still.” He told the group that the meeting conflicted with a planned conference call with Roger Ailes, the chairman of the Fox News Channel. (Another participant in the conference call attended the meeting.) Ailes wanted to discuss a project that Surnow has been planning for months: the début, on February 18th, of “The Half Hour News Hour,” a conservative satirical treatment of the week’s news; Surnow sees the show as offering a counterpoint to the liberal slant of “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.”

Howard Gordon, who is the series’ “show runner,” or lead writer, told me that he concocts many of the torture scenes himself. “Honest to God, I’d call them improvisations in sadism,” he said. Several copies of the C.I.A.’s 1963 KUBARK interrogation manual can be found at the “24” offices, but Gordon said that, “for the most part, our imaginations are the source. Sometimes these ideas are inspired by a scene’s location or come from props—what’s on the set.” He explained that much of the horror is conjured by the viewer. “To see a scalpel and see it move below the frame of the screen is a lot scarier than watching the whole thing. When you get a camera moving fast, and someone screaming, it really works.” In recent years, he said, “we’ve resorted a lot to a pharmacological sort of thing.” A character named Burke—a federal employee of the C.T.U. who carries a briefcase filled with elephantine hypodermic needles—has proved indispensable. “He’ll inject chemicals that cause horrible pain that can knock down your defenses—a sort of sodium pentothal plus,” Gordon said. “When we’re stuck, we say, ‘Call Burke!’ ” He added, “The truth is, there’s a certain amount of fatigue. It’s getting hard not to repeat the same torture techniques over and over.”

Gordon, who is a “moderate Democrat,” said that it worries him when “critics say that we’ve enabled and reflected the public’s appetite for torture. Nobody wants to be the handmaid to a relaxed policy that accepts torture as a legitimate means of interrogation.” He went on, “But the premise of ‘24’ is the ticking time bomb. It takes an unusual situation and turns it into the meat and potatoes of the show.” He paused.

“I think people can differentiate between a television show and reality.”

Propaganda of the Police State: Torture TV Endorsed by Mainstream Media, Amnesty International:

Outsiders have drawn connections between the real world and the fictional 24. The Council on American-Islamic Relations criticized the depiction of Muslim terrorists; a New York Times column compared 24's focus on domestic terror threats to the Bush administration's focus on Iraq; and Karen Greenberg, co-editor of The Torture Papers: The Road to Abu Ghraib, mentioned the series in a Baltimore Sun column about U.S. torture policy.

Alistair Hodgett of Amnesty International credits 24 and A&E's MI-5, which follows the British security service, with realistic depictions that provide “a clearer idea of what torture involves. … They do more to educate than desensitize.”

“Jack Bauer is a tragic character. He doesn't get away with it clean. He's got blood on his hands,” Gordon says. “In some ways, he is a necessary evil.”

12 posted on 11/21/2008 9:46:53 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: ladyjane
She has that Presidential "LOOK", many equate Obama with having. She makes Hillary look "common" .."proletariat" or an invisibility, if you did not already know who she was. If that makes any sense.
13 posted on 11/21/2008 9:54:11 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Timeout

Ping


14 posted on 11/21/2008 9:56:04 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

The movie Sunday night looks like it “for the children”.....


15 posted on 11/21/2008 1:44:45 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Million Minuteman March (Spring 2009))
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