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SCOTUS and the Presidential election
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Posted on 11/21/2008 11:35:11 AM PST by Writesider

Supreme Court Of The United States (SCOTUS) Justice David Souter has agreed that a review of the federal lawsuit filed by attorney Phil Berg against Barack Hussein Obama II, et al., which was subsequently dismissed for lack of standing is warranted. SCOTUS Docket No. 08-570 contains the details.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; philipberg; scotus; souter
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks for the heads up, Phil. Oh, my. Seems this is getting some attention. Chief Justice Roberts cannot claim ignorance at this point.


41 posted on 11/21/2008 3:23:20 PM PST by Girlene (Wolverines!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
The only reason to take it is to affirm his citizenship.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Article II of the US COnstitution is not about citizenship.

It requires that any US president be "natural born in the United States"

Its a completely different legal question.

42 posted on 11/21/2008 3:32:35 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Candor7

This is very very interesting. There are enough issues in play that it really should go before the Supreme Court to rule on the various factors so we don’t have this crisis in the future..and god help us that we get it done before Obamanazi can appoint his minions on to the court.


43 posted on 11/21/2008 4:08:28 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Anyone actually go to that website that was linked. There is post about Martial law Bush/Cheney lockdown coming..what kind of site is that?


44 posted on 11/21/2008 4:28:42 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I guess I am out of the loop because I have never heard of NWO/Martial law agenda.
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=121805;title=APFN


45 posted on 11/21/2008 4:38:52 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Any more news on the Berg case? OH bumpah


46 posted on 11/21/2008 8:02:14 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: PhilDragoo

Love what you’ve done with the Twelfth Imam, and his COLB. ;o)


47 posted on 11/21/2008 8:52:29 PM PST by dixiechick2000
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To: Writesider

Father not a citizen, son is not natural born, even if born in Hawaii or Hell, :

The term “natural born” citizen has a long history in British common law.(38) In fact, a law passed in 1677 law says that “natural born” citizens include people born overseas to British citizens. This usage was undoubtedly known to John Jay, who had children born overseas while he was serving as a diplomat.(39) It also appears to have been employed by the members of the first Congress, who included many of the people who had participated in the Constitutional Convention. To be specific, The Naturalization Act of 1790, which was passed by this Congress, declared “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens; Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident of the United States.”(40)

This history suggests that the Founding Fathers used the term “natural born” as an expansive definition of citizenship, that is, as a way to make certain that people born overseas to American citizens would have the full rights of other American citizens.(41)

A particularly compelling version of this interpretation, with language that applies, inadvertently, no doubt, to foreign-born adoptees, can be found in an article written almost 100 years ago by Alexander Porter Morse.(42) He writes that by drawing on the term so well known from English law, the Founders were recognizing “the law of hereditary, rather than territorial allegiance.”(43) In other words, they were drawing on the English legal tradition, which protected allegiance to the king by conferring citizenship on all children “whose fathers were natural-born subjects,” regardless of where the children were born.(44) Thus, according to Morse, “the framers thought it wise, in view of the probable influx of European immigration, to provide that the President should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance to the United States at the time of his birth.”(45) He goes on to say that the presidential eligibility clause “was scarcely intended to bar the children of American parentage, whether born at sea or in foreign territory.... A natural-born citizen has been defined as one whose citizenship is established by the jurisdiction which the United States already has over the parents of the child, not what is thereafter acquired by choice of residence in this country.”(46


48 posted on 11/22/2008 12:58:12 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: LibertyRocks

“Interesting! So, Souter denied Donofrio’s motion (which Thomas scheduled for a Conference), and now Souter agrees that Berg’s lawsuit should be docketed? Something is afoot in the halls of the SCOTUS!”
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Wow!! Holy crapp!! I can’t believe this. This is better than the movies. Quick, grab popcorn and coke!!!


49 posted on 11/22/2008 5:00:45 PM PST by montesquieu
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