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NYT Blog: Clinton Has Decided to Accept Offer of Secretary of State Position (per two confidants)
The New York Times ^ | 11/21/8 | Peter Baker

Posted on 11/21/2008 12:15:38 PM PST by bimboeruption

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To: fieldmarshaldj
I didn't know Johnson was for legalizing all drugs. Does that really preclude him from winning? I'd take one whacked out position over any rat.

What happened to Lyons? He did win reelection by 3 points in the awful 2006.

Anaya was controversial and unpopular (much like Richardson, in that he was frequently leaving the state and was also perceived as being racist

Against whites? Interesting. Perhaps that's part of the reason his approval rating was 23%!!

I think that article is supposed to be from 1985, certainly not 2005.

201 posted on 11/26/2008 5:03:17 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
"I didn't know Johnson was for legalizing all drugs. Does that really preclude him from winning? I'd take one whacked out position over any rat."

The problem is that it wasn't a very helpful position. I've visited some areas of rural Northern NM where the drug problem is an epidemic, and it was not well-regarded his libertarian stance (and these are areas where young children are addicts). It was embarrassing reading about when some young children from that area contacted the Governor and told him he was undermining attempts up there to tackle the problem by his stance. Obviously he wasn't endorsing children taking drugs, but with legalization and making it that much easier to bring in drugs to those areas, it would be akin to tossing gasoline on a fire.

"What happened to Lyons? He did win reelection by 3 points in the awful 2006."

Lyons had more money than his Dem opponent, Jim Baca (the former holder of that office and a former ABQ Mayor). I think the criticisms of him was that he's been "too close" to lobbyists and the gas/oil industry. Baca, conversely, is an environmental kook. The main criticism of him in the past few years is that he's had a cozy relationship with a Las Cruces developer and "questionable" land deals (also talk that the Dem AG has been wanting to investigate and possibly indict him). The problem here is that I don't think there's anything Lyons has done that is particularly worse than what any average Dem officeholder has done, if it even is "illegal" (questionable, perhaps, but not illegal). We see how the Dems always feign moral superiority over nothing regarding Republicans while their own corrupt class gets away with outright illegalities and they look the other way. No, really, Pat Lyons cardinal sin is that he won a statewide race in 2002 and won again in 2006. All Republicans must be cleansed from NM, y'know.

"Against whites? Interesting. Perhaps that's part of the reason his approval rating was 23%!!"

Yeah, Anaya wore his "Brownness" much in the same way a Black Panther member would his race. He was also a big-spending liberal. I always thought Richardson was Anaya, Part Deux, but the state seems to inexplicably give that fat prick a pass on all his antics (molesting his Lt Governor, being out of state a lot of the time, and his ultraexpensive projects, such as the choo-choo line from Santa Fe to south of ABQ). I remember when I was doing my research a dozen years ago on former Governors and I was obtaining addresses, Anaya had apparently moved to South America. It was also about the single-worst response rate, too. Not a single former Governor answered my letters.

202 posted on 11/27/2008 4:58:20 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I'm not a huge drug warrior but outright legalizing all that nasty ****, having it for sale in stores? Not a good idea.

I think Richardson's conduct towards Denish is the clearest window into his real personality.

You say he's been a big spender?

"The Cato Institute, meanwhile, has consistently rated Richardson as one of the most fiscally responsible Democratic governors in the nation."

That really says something about the others.

"Anaya had apparently moved to South America."

Changed his name to Hugo? :D Good riddance.

There is another guy with the same name who's a VP at Coca-Cola. He's even from New Mexico and was involved in government but it doesn't seem to be the same guy.

"Toney Anaya, Elmsford, has been named vice president public affairs and communications for the Coca-Cola Bottling Company of New York, a division of Coca-Cola Enterprises. He will be responsible for government affairs, community relations, media relations and employee communications for a seven-state region. Previously, Anaya was vice president of public affairs out of New Mexico, managing the Southwest. Before joining Coca-Cola Enterprises, he was state legal counsel for US West and chief of staff for the New Mexico Legislature."

203 posted on 11/27/2008 3:46:11 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
"I'm not a huge drug warrior but outright legalizing all that nasty ****, having it for sale in stores? Not a good idea."

I have no idea how that was going to be handled. I don't recall if he outright favored selling it in stores, I'm guessing not. But once you go the route of legalization or decriminalization, you've already started down the path. To some, it may sound like a good idea to "cut" the crime rate, but I think it only ends up escalating the problem from a social standpoint, especially with the stigma of illegality removed.

"I think Richardson's conduct towards Denish is the clearest window into his real personality."

I always thought he was a lot like Bubba, perhaps a bit more ham-fisted. He's a creep and a scumbag, that much is certain. As my father said, too, he thought he's one of the single stupidest people he's ever seen in public office, and he's met and dealt with a lot of idiots.

"You say he's been a big spender?"

"The Cato Institute, meanwhile, has consistently rated Richardson as one of the most fiscally responsible Democratic governors in the nation."

That's news to me. His obsession with the billion-dollar+ Rail Runner boondoggle doesn't seem to josh with the above conclusion by Cato.

"Changed his name to Hugo? :D Good riddance."

Heh. He moved back to NM in the past decade.

"There is another guy with the same name who's a VP at Coca-Cola. He's even from New Mexico and was involved in government but it doesn't seem to be the same guy."

I was wondering if that was his son. I don't know if he had children. A relative of some sort, perhaps.

204 posted on 11/27/2008 4:14:40 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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Three kids..

So it could be his son.

205 posted on 11/27/2008 4:41:05 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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