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World's largest zeppelin dedicated at NASA facility [246 foot Eureka at Moffitt Field, CA]
CNet ^ | November 21, 2008 | Daniel Terdiman

Posted on 11/21/2008 2:25:23 PM PST by Mike Fieschko

The zeppelin, Eureka, sits on the tarmac at Moffett Field in Mountain View, Calif. The airship was dedicated Friday at an event celebrating the 75h anniversary of Moffett Field.(Credit: Daniel Terdiman/CNET News)

MOFFETT FIELD, Calif.--NASA celebrated the 75th anniversary of this iconic airfield and research center on Friday by dedicating a brand-new zeppelin from a private company called Airship Ventures.

The zeppelin NT ("new technology"), which is one of just three currently functioning zeppelins that exist in the world, and the biggest, at 246 feet, was named "Eureka," a name that relates to the fact that the ship is based in California, as well as the fact that it is "rooted in scientific principles," said Brian Bell, a co-founder of Airship Ventures, the ship's owner, minutes before he revealed the new name.

At an event here to celebrate the two milestones, Alexandra Bell, also a co-founder of Airship Ventures, spoke of the experience of getting the zeppelin program off the ground. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), as well as Pete Worden, director of the NASA Ames Research Center, attended the event.

Airship Ventures is the first company in the United States to offer public access to zeppelins. And the company will be carrying paying passengers around the Bay Area, as well as helping NASA carry out scientific research.

The co-founders of Airship Ventures pull back the cover on the name of their brand-new zeppelin, the largest in the world, at the event Friday. The zeppelin is called the Eureka.(Credit: Daniel Terdiman/CNET News)

Brian Bell explained that Airship Ventures had a naming contest and received more than 1,500 submissions, five of which turned out to be "Eureka," a name that those involved in the company had already been thinking about anyway.

But Alexandra Bell said that the Eureka may not end up being Airship Ventures' only zeppelin (See video below of the first flight of the Eureka after its dedication).

"We decided we just have to get a couple more," she said, "so we can name them with some of the other wonderful names" we got.

While the Eureka is the largest currently functioning zeppelin, the airships from the golden age of zeppelins were much, much larger. The Hindenburg and the Graf Zeppelin were about 800 feet long, and the Macon, which was based at Moffat for a couple of years in the 1930s, was 785 feet long.



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KEYWORDS: aerospace; airship; anniversary; nasa; zeppelin
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1 posted on 11/21/2008 2:25:23 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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Sorry about the typo in the title. It’s Moffett Field, of course.


2 posted on 11/21/2008 2:27:12 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: Mike Fieschko

Oh the Hugh Manatee!


3 posted on 11/21/2008 2:28:39 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Mike Fieschko

If they strung it with Light Emitting Diodes would it be the LED Zeppelin?


4 posted on 11/21/2008 2:31:37 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Do not read this tagline.)
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To: Mike Fieschko
The zeppelin NT ("new technology"), which is one of just three currently functioning zeppelins that exist in the world, and the biggest

So the "World's Largest" zeppelin is just larger than the other two. I am not so impressed anymore.

5 posted on 11/21/2008 2:32:26 PM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: SlowBoat407

You owe me a keyboard.


6 posted on 11/21/2008 2:34:16 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: Mike Fieschko

I thought a Zepplin had to be made by Zepplin? Wouldn’t this ‘just’ be an airship or blimp?

All colas are not Coke.


7 posted on 11/21/2008 2:35:29 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: dfwgator

The Hindenburg class were 804 ft long compared to this paltry 246 ft.

Plus, due to hydrogen being a far superior lifting agent, could carry more cargo.

There was a small problem with H2, however.


8 posted on 11/21/2008 2:36:55 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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To: Mike Fieschko; 2Fro; all_mighty_dollar; Arkat Kingtroll; Battle Hymn of the Republic; Betis70; ...

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I actually saw the thing puttering around in the skies over Palo Alto the other day. Macht Cool!

9 posted on 11/21/2008 2:37:00 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Mike Fieschko

It’s not a zeppelin or a dirigible. There’s no rigid internal structure in this airship — therefore, it’s a blimp.

Completely different from zeppelins (which were dirigibles built by the German Zeppelin company).


10 posted on 11/21/2008 2:37:17 PM PST by Poundstone
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To: edge10

zepplins have a metal frame.

Blimps are funny shaped baloons.


11 posted on 11/21/2008 2:38:06 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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To: martin_fierro

It was cruising up & down the SF waterfront all last Saturday. My birthday’s coming up - I know what I want.


12 posted on 11/21/2008 2:39:38 PM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: SlowBoat407

>groan<


13 posted on 11/21/2008 2:41:51 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: edge10
I thought a Zepplin had to be made by Zepplin? Wouldn’t this ‘just’ be an airship or blimp?

Blimps aren't rigid. Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin got a patent for his design in 1895, for a rigid airship (airship would be the generic term for blimps and zeppelins) with a rigid metal alloy skeleton, made of rings and longitudinal girders. I don't think the terms 'zeppelin' was ever trademarked like 'bandaid' or 'xerox', so the word is applied to examples of his design.
14 posted on 11/21/2008 2:43:55 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: Poundstone
The company's website claims it has a rigid frame, so it's not a blimp.

Now for the bad taste from the company. They had a bad link for guessing the name. Their error message was:

Error 404
Oh, the Humanity!
Looks like the page you are looking for doesn't exist or has moved.

I can make Hindenberg jokes, but I expected better from the company making zeppelins.

Link to a missing page

15 posted on 11/21/2008 2:47:49 PM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: Poundstone
It’s not a zeppelin or a dirigible.

I thought dirigibles had steering surfaces. It looks as if Eureka has them.

There's no interior skeleton? Thanks for the correction.
16 posted on 11/21/2008 2:48:07 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: SkyDancer; Mike Fieschko

I thought it was funny! LOL


17 posted on 11/21/2008 2:51:07 PM PST by Ladysmith
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To: SlowBoat407

LOL ! you funny man...


18 posted on 11/21/2008 2:51:52 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: martin_fierro

About 1960 I was peacefully minding my own business floating in the swimming pool with my eyes closed. All of a sudden the heat of the sun was gone, as if a cloud had moved in.

I opened my eyes and directly above me was the Goodyear blimp, flying extremely low. I literally couldn’t see ANYthing except the bottom of that blimp.

One of the creepiest moments I can remember.


19 posted on 11/21/2008 2:52:18 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: Poundstone

It has a rigid internal structure, therefore it’s a zepplelin. A zepplelin is a rigid airship. Dirigible is the term used to describe all airships, blimps and zeppelins.


20 posted on 11/21/2008 2:52:46 PM PST by shorty_harris
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To: Mike Fieschko
What could possibly go wrong?
21 posted on 11/21/2008 2:53:57 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Mike Fieschko

From their website:

The unique stability of the airship is based on rigid inner structure made of aluminum and carbon–fiber. All the main components such as the cabin, engines and empennage are mounted directly to this framework. This semi-rigid construction enables exceptional flight performance and allows for a quiet and stable passenger experience. The resulting low vibration also makes the Zeppelin NT an ideal platform for scientific missions allowing for sensitive test equipment to be mounted on board.


22 posted on 11/21/2008 2:54:26 PM PST by Ladysmith
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To: shorty_harris

All of my various spellings of zeppelin, should be “zeppelin”!


23 posted on 11/21/2008 2:55:34 PM PST by shorty_harris
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To: Mike Fieschko

24 posted on 11/21/2008 2:57:50 PM PST by P.O.E. (Big Government is the opiate of the masses.)
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To: edge10
It would be “just a dirigible.” However, due to popular ignorance, all rigid airships are zeppelins, just as all facial tissue is “kleenex” and all copiers are "xerox."
25 posted on 11/21/2008 2:57:59 PM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: KarlInOhio
So the "World's Largest" zeppelin is just larger than the other two. I am not so impressed anymore.

B/c you know there's "the truth", and there's "the whole truth".

26 posted on 11/21/2008 3:01:42 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Ladysmith

I forgot the name they give jokes like that but it was funny though ... friend of mine has an RV made by Fleetwood and he calls it “Fleetwood Mac”


27 posted on 11/21/2008 3:09:11 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Mike Fieschko
Wow! Isn't that swell! NASA is building zeppelins. I'm sure this will help bolster interstate commerce.

It's long past time to shut down NASA and let the children there look for real jobs.

ML/NJ

28 posted on 11/21/2008 3:16:10 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: SlowBoat407

“If they strung it with Light Emitting Diodes would it be the LED Zeppelin?”

only if it was named by Keith Moon


29 posted on 11/21/2008 3:19:59 PM PST by Writesider
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To: Mike Fieschko
At an event here to celebrate the two milestones, Alexandra Bell, also a co-founder of Airship Ventures, spoke of the experience of getting the zeppelin program off the ground. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), as well as Pete Worden, director of the NASA Ames Research Center, attended the event.

Proof positive that NASA loves pork as much as any other government entity.

30 posted on 11/21/2008 3:20:19 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: ml/nj
Wow! Isn't that swell! NASA is building zeppelins.

The article doesn't say that NASA built the airship, only that the airship was dedicated at a NASA facility. I hope the private company paid NASA for using the facility (that would be proper), but I don't know.

If you have any info that taxpayer dollars contributed to Eureka's design, construction, operation, etc., please post it.
31 posted on 11/21/2008 3:26:10 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: Cyber Liberty

NASA Ames loves the rent money they get from Airship Ventures and the Google boys. It helps them offset the cost of operating the airfield.


32 posted on 11/21/2008 3:26:15 PM PST by shorty_harris
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To: Mike Fieschko
...It’s Moffett Field, of course.

Somehow, I remember it as Moffat Field. But that was 30 years ago, so what do I know?

33 posted on 11/21/2008 3:32:46 PM PST by Monkey Face (Save the whales! Collect the whole set.)
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To: SlowBoat407
If they strung it with Light Emitting Diodes would it be the LED Zeppelin?

Why not? There's already a LED blimp.



Lightships A-170 Video Blimp

34 posted on 11/21/2008 3:34:17 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: MeanWestTexan

I think it goes like “rigid airship” (zeppelin), “semi-rigid airship” and “blimp” (Goodyear).


35 posted on 11/21/2008 3:42:20 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: skeeter

Saw it too. Is your Bday in Dec?


36 posted on 11/21/2008 3:44:04 PM PST by pbear8 (I have plenty of credit, there is no crunch)
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To: edge10
It is a Zeppelin — made by the Zeppelin company. The name should probably always be capitalized, so that it's not mistaken for a generic term. Airships comprise blimps (no supporting structure), dirigibles (some sort of supporting structure). Zeppelins are a brand of dirigible. The “NT” is justified — these New Technology Zeppelins bear little resemblance (besides the shape) to the Hindenburg.

I'm a huge fan of airships; if I were rich enough, I'd have one of these Zeppelins parked in my back yard.

37 posted on 11/21/2008 3:52:28 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: ml/nj
Wow! Isn't that swell! NASA is building zeppelins. I'm sure this will help bolster interstate commerce. It's long past time to shut down NASA and let the children there look for real jobs.

First paragraph, first line.

"NASA celebrated the 75th anniversary of this iconic airfield and research center on Friday..."

38 posted on 11/21/2008 3:57:50 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: EggsAckley

Same thing happend to me while mowing my aunts lawn during the 80’s.
I hear this weird buzzing sound and i look up and there’s the GY blimp Directly above me.
It was so close i could have hit it with a rock.


39 posted on 11/21/2008 4:03:17 PM PST by mowowie
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Airships comprise blimps (no supporting structure), dirigibles (some sort of supporting structure).

Don't forget semi-rigids. I'm not sure the current generation isn't a hybrid between a dirigible and a semi-rigid.

40 posted on 11/21/2008 4:05:22 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Poundstone
There’s no rigid internal structure in this airship — therefore, it’s a blimp.

Apparently, no. http://www.airshipventures.com/theship.php

41 posted on 11/21/2008 4:09:54 PM PST by PAR35
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To: pbear8

Yep. Its a big one.


42 posted on 11/21/2008 4:19:00 PM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: skeeter

So is mine in December. We need to start a support group for people with sucky birthdays.


43 posted on 11/21/2008 4:26:04 PM PST by pbear8 (I have plenty of credit, there is no crunch)
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To: Mike Fieschko
If you have any info that taxpayer dollars contributed to Eureka's design, construction, operation, etc., please post it.

From NASA's website:

NASA and Airship Ventures entered into an agreement to use the airship to assist with disaster response agencies, for scientific research and educational training with local science centers and museums.
This whole thing STINKS. Esther Dyson is a big investor apparently. She's a fraud to my mind. I still remember being at a conference where she was on a panel and another on the panel said to her, "Esther. You're blowing smoke out your a$$ again." Wow! Did this guy hit the nail on the head!

The company that built the thing is called Airship Ventures. Now one could be forgiven for thinking that this was a craft that floats on hydrogen as did the zeppelins of the 1930s. But it's loaded with helium just as blimps are. The difference apparently is that this is a rigid airship. Wow. Big deal. But they let you know that they needed a team of 14 lawyers to get flight certification. Why this would be is unclear.

As for renting space at an airfield. Blimps frequently use the field near my house. It's a mini-bonanza for the airfield as the blimp uses an otherwise unused grassy area of the field. Almost all airports I've landed at have such grassy areas. (I'm an inactive IFR rated pilot.) The Airship Ventures folks claim somewhere that the need a much smaller ground crew than a blimp, which means mooring rental should probably be less than for a blimp. (Maybe. I'm sure this thing weighs more, so maybe whatever temporary mast they tie it to would create more ground disturbance at the field, but I doubt it.)

Anyway, my guess is that we're paying for this, or at least a lot of it.

ML/NJ

44 posted on 11/21/2008 4:26:59 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: KarlInOhio
Yeah, because the world's largest Zeppelin was actually the "Hindenburg", which was almost as long as the "Titanic", and made a 747-400 look like an insect.

Oh! The Humanity! (sorry.....couldn't resist on a Zeppelin thread.)



Of course, both were equally ill-fated...


45 posted on 11/21/2008 4:27:14 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: SunTzuWu
And your point is ... ?

ML/NJ

46 posted on 11/21/2008 4:28:32 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

Thanks. From the quote you provide from NASA’s web site, it looks as if we’re subsidizing this project.


47 posted on 11/21/2008 4:30:27 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: pbear8

You suffered the “its a combination birthday/christmas gift” thing, too?


48 posted on 11/21/2008 4:31:34 PM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: skeeter

Oh yeah. Or if you get a birthday gift it is wrapped in Christmas paper.


49 posted on 11/21/2008 4:44:15 PM PST by pbear8 (I have plenty of credit, there is no crunch)
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To: Poundstone
Zeppelins were also built under license by Goodyear in Akron Ohio. Zeppelin Reederei GmbH designer Dr. Karl Arnstein was director of a partnership of what was known as the Goodyear-Zeppelin Co. and the extremely huge hangar on Akron's south side still stands next to the Rubber Bowl and Soapbox Derby track.

They built two airships for the US Navy, sister-ships the USS Akron and USS Macon. They used helium for lift, and actually carried a small squadron of biplane fighters in their interior - launched and recovered by hooks and a trapeze sort of mechanism. They were used in war games in the late 20's and early 30's as aerial aircraft carriers. Both came to grief in bad storms. Admiral Moffett, the driving force behind naval lighter-than -air capability and for whom Moffett Field is named, was killed when the Macon crashed in 1935.


USS Akron


USS Macon


Plane recovery USS Macon
50 posted on 11/21/2008 4:46:47 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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