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What if a Slowdown Is a Never-Ending Story?
The New York Times ^ | November 21, 2008 | Ben Stein

Posted on 11/22/2008 4:01:21 PM PST by dano1

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To: dalereed
"Absolutely, FDR negotiated the attack on Pearl to get us into the war and end the depression."

Where ever did you get such a retarded theory as that?

Oh yeah, FDR "negotiated" the destruction of the entire pacific fleet to get us IN to the war. LMAO!

I suppose that later, the Japs asked us to nuke them so they could get out of it?

101 posted on 11/22/2008 5:39:11 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Tojo and Yamamoto-I tell people the same thing. Great minds think alike.


102 posted on 11/22/2008 5:40:19 PM PST by yawningotter
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To: Travis McGee

That is my fear.

If our country experiences a prolonged recession/depression I’m not sure our current “why is this taking so long” population will get it.

An open door for major political change and the end of our country as we know it.


103 posted on 11/22/2008 5:40:32 PM PST by berdie
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To: Travis McGee

Sometimes depressions lead to Dark Ages. Ask any Roman. No Roman from 500AD lived to see the end of that Great Depression.

I’d very much like to learn more about this. What Roman great depression in 500 AD? I am aware of the fall of Rome by the barbarian hordes around this time. But I am not aware of an economic depression then.


104 posted on 11/22/2008 5:41:17 PM PST by sasportas
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To: jessduntno
"Ben Stein...he is usually fairly well balanced"

I can't recall this fool being "balanced" about ANYTHING in at least the last 15 yrs. If he ever knew anything, he rapidly forgot and replaced it with the usual Hollywood claptrap once he arrived there.

105 posted on 11/22/2008 5:41:53 PM PST by penowa
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To: napscoordinator
Even the depression had an ending.

Yes...World War II!

What this article addresses is the need to create a climate of trust again.

Once trust is lost, it is very difficult to replace.

A government hell-bent on robbing producers to pay-off loafers won't get the job done.

106 posted on 11/22/2008 5:44:08 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority ((Barack Obama...stuck on stupid and idle as the world races by him like a bullet train...)
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To: Big_Monkey

“However, this is where your point has great relevance. We (the US and the civilized world) are to the point of technology saturation. What’s next? There doesn’t seem to be any new technology on the near-horizon that is so compelling it continues to drive demand for consumer goods”

I know I preach a lot about NAFTA and the other upcoming free trade groups, but the agenda behind it all is to elevate the economies and standard of living of these countries to merge them into one entity.

The benefit of this is to increase the GNP of the world from the present%25 with a participating standard of living to %100 by increasing the others standard of living. This will enable the world economy to grow by %75. In other words it’s not a new technology or product coming available to the existing world market but the expansion of the world market that is the objective; and an opportunity for the redemption of our debt or dilution of it.

It’s like saying we can only sell a washing machine that never wears out to x number of people in the world and that has been fulfilled, when we have %75 of the people who can’t buy one because they have no income to buy it with or no outlet to plug it into. Change the world market by elevating the standard of living and it will open up the markets. aka New World Order


107 posted on 11/22/2008 5:44:16 PM PST by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: RXSalesman

Professor Irwin Correy?


108 posted on 11/22/2008 5:47:28 PM PST by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: dano1

What manufacturing? They sent it all to China and then expected our economy to survive on the huge executive compensation paid to the brainiacs who thought it was a good idea to decimate the American workforce.


109 posted on 11/22/2008 5:48:48 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: I see my hands

Yup- Central Planning:

That sure worked for all the Soviet Union, didn’t it?
How many starved?

How many lived wretched lives?

NObama thinks there are 57 states-—sure am not going to support his “central planning”.


110 posted on 11/22/2008 5:53:44 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Brett66
Obama will probably try about 100 different things, all of them wrong and out of desperation.

You better hope and pray that you are wrong.
There is too little time and too few assets to "try 100 different things".
The current economic and financial state here and throughout the world has the potential to move quickly into a state equal or worse than the great depression.
Sounds like a lot of folks here are routing for Obama to get this wrong.
You have no idea how ugly this can get..

111 posted on 11/22/2008 5:54:16 PM PST by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: central_va
"Yes, the 70's and early 80'S were worse (everone forgets how bad 80 - 83 were, fashions not withstanding.

Only thing "bad" in the 80's was interest rates shot up for a couple years, that's about all. Otherwise, those were good years. Excellent years in fact.

112 posted on 11/22/2008 5:54:23 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: goodnesswins

Yeah.....speaking of “throwing someone under the bus”....I predict Hillary will be FIRST....and then...she’s outta the Senate....out of the State....and outta politics!!! maybe temporarily or maybe permanently....”

What happens if she resigns her post in the Sentate- then the “clearance” background on her and Bill comes up with something the Messiah doesn’t like and he withdraws the Sec State nomination?

Does he effectively cut her off at the knees???


113 posted on 11/22/2008 5:55:26 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

YEP....and I would NOT be surprised if it happened!!!


114 posted on 11/22/2008 5:56:10 PM PST by goodnesswins (CONSERVATIVES....saving America's A** whether you like it or not!)
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To: I see my hands
plus, no matter what, we have to institute national health insurance, that's a given. The only thing that makes sense is central planning and collaboration with the global community.

Please tell me there was no room for your < /sarc> tag, in that annoying, centered little box.

115 posted on 11/22/2008 5:56:17 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Riodacat
You have no idea how ugly this can get..

I believe millions of Americans know EXACTLY how ugly this can get. They are buying guns and ammunition like there is no tomorrow and it isn't just out of fear that new gun restrictions will be imposed.

A lot of people are stocking up on the basics and know enough to get prepared to defend their stocks and their lives.

116 posted on 11/22/2008 5:58:43 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority ((Barack Obama...stuck on stupid and idle as the world races by him like a bullet train...)
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To: sasportas

“””Sometimes depressions lead to Dark Ages. Ask any Roman. No Roman from 500AD lived to see the end of that Great Depression.

I’d very much like to learn more about this. What Roman great depression in 500 AD? I am aware of the fall of Rome by the barbarian hordes around this time. But I am not aware of an economic depression then.””””

Economic collapse can lead to a breakdown or collapse of civilization if it spirals out of control - as what happened to the Romans would be my thinking on this


117 posted on 11/22/2008 5:59:42 PM PST by underbyte
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To: central_va

That’s the nicest response I’ve ever seen to: “Just correcting my tagline.” And, of course, you are right.


118 posted on 11/22/2008 6:04:27 PM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT WILL BE THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Sorry, the depression did not end with ww2. Times were so bad during the war you couldn't even buy a rubber inner tube for a bicycle. You had to put a 'gasifier" on the front of your car to make wood gas to drive your car anywhere, because there was no gas. There was not a scrap of spare steel to be had, no cars being made for the general public.
There were food shortages, leather shortages, even textile shortages. practically everything that wasn't nailed down was used for the war effort.

The depression ended AFTER the war, and even then it took a few years before people could feel their lives improve.

119 posted on 11/22/2008 6:06:15 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Riodacat

Obama will probably try about 100 different things, all of them wrong and out of desperation...sounds like a lot of folks here are rooting for Obama to get this wrong.

Will you please tell me how a Gramski/Saul Alinsky disciple is going to get this any other way but wrong? Of course, we don’t want to see America go down, but if you think this commie is going to get it right, you are sadly mistaken.

Root for a commie to get it right? Impossible. Were he McCain we’d have an outside chance, but not with this guy.


120 posted on 11/22/2008 6:07:09 PM PST by sasportas
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