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To: Apparatchik

When I studied theology (catholic), I had to do a semester entitled Contempory Athiesm. I studied Marx, Darwin and Nietzche as well as other scholars who had shaped thought and influenced faith and belief in the modern church. You had to work your way through their writings trying to parse meaning trying to understand what may have been true and what was not. Marx, for example was an historian and his studies on the European peasant revolt and the rise of Luther was very good, indeed fascinating. In his writing you will find some insight and explanation for the popularity and growth of the evangelical movement of today.

Marx’ commentary on the meaning of religion and faith were very challenging. But, if you believe that the best steel comes from the hottest fire you understand the need to study those who so deeply affect and, yet still are part of the mix that sees a strengthening of faith within and around the modern church.

When you suggest that “Communism, Nazism and Darwinism” are the tools of leftists and secular humanists wanting to ridicule intelligent design theories, I begin to wonder. I wonder if you understand any of this at all. I wonder what kind of a God you have created for yourself. Mostly I wonder about how angry and unhappy you must be.

You should not allow what others believe to upset you. If you are solid in your own faith it should allow you to tenderly reach out to others when they seek shelter from the storm. In the meantime, you might enjoy reading Marx. You will find that he not nearly as evil as his press clippings suggest. And, he has never really been a threat to people of good faith.


14 posted on 11/23/2008 6:32:08 AM PST by spatso
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To: spatso

Karl Marx was a mutt who never did anything that ever benefited humanity. Screw him and anyone who would follow him.


16 posted on 11/23/2008 6:35:49 AM PST by Longtom
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To: spatso
".....You will find that he not nearly as evil as his press clippings suggest. And, he has never really been a threat to people of good faith."

Tell that to the millions of people that his followers murdered and enslaved.

19 posted on 11/23/2008 6:45:41 AM PST by sport
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To: spatso
How do you tell a communist?
Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin.

And how do you tell an anti-Communist?
It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

Ronald Reagan

"You might enjoy reading Marx. You will find that he not nearly as evil as his press clippings suggest."

100 Million dead.....




"I wonder what kind of a God you have created for yourself. Mostly I wonder about how angry and unhappy you must be."

Marx's goal was the elimination of religion and GOD from society. (Read "The Jewish question")



Unhappy??... accusing GODS children that of which Satin is guilty of?

Are you too blind to see who is murdering who?

Get behind me Satan.....

28 posted on 11/23/2008 11:10:05 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: spatso
Wow. What an exquisitely biting response. Let me try and recap: I criticize Marxism, Nazism, and (gasp!) Darwinism and therefore I am angry and unhappy. In fact, I am quite content with my life and unshaken in my faith, for your information. I just don't appreciate a bunch of pseudo-intellectual blowhards like yourself and J.B.S. Haldane shoving their own "religion" (the glorification of humankind above God) down the throats of people who humble themselves before a living and loving Creator.

So, in your own style of rebuttal, dear friend- Nanny nanny boo boo.
36 posted on 11/23/2008 5:47:27 PM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away.(Jim Ignatowski))
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