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To: allmendream
==I have my position and it is clearly stated and agrees with the data both you and I have sourced.

Wrong.

==You have your position and it is contradicted by the data both you and I have sourced.

Wrong again.

==And despite your attempt at selective quotation of a paper, both the paper you sourced and I clearly tell you that chimps and humans are more similar to each other in DNA than either is to a gorilla.

Your inability to comprehend a straightforward reading of your fellow Temple of Darwin fanatics is almost as bad as your inability to comprehend a straightforward reading of Genesis. As I mention in my last reply, the authors admit that (A) apes are closer to humans than to chimps in a considerable fraction of single genes (B) that this is in conflict with the Evo human-chimp catechism and (C) that this leaves open the possibility (from a Darwiniac perspective) that humans and chimps diverged from apes, but not from each other. If you think this is not what the authors of this paper are saying, then may I suggest that the Darwiniac worms have ate too much of your brain.

337 posted on 12/02/2008 11:12:24 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Humans chimps and gorillas are all apes according to taxonomy classification. Even if you want to exclude humans from the ape clade, chimps are obviously still apes. So your sentence “apes are closer to humans than to chimps” shows your ignorance - chimps ARE apes.

When you say “ape” you mean gorilla?

The authors conclude that chimps and humans diverged some 4 million years ago. Their data indicates that chimps humans and gorillas diverged at greater than 4 million years ago.

If you cannot comprehend this you are clearly in need of remedial reading classes.

The authors conclusion is that...

“Our molecular dating estimates are generally in agreement with a large number of studies using different calibration points; Kumar et al. [26], Glazko and Nei [27], and even the classical study of Sarich and Wilson [28] found a molecular divergence of HC at 5–7 Myr, 6 Myr, and 5 Myr, respectively. Speciation, defined as the total cessation of gene flow, is necessarily more recent than these molecular dates, and our value of approximately 4 Myr agrees very well with the time suggested by Patterson et al. [2]”

338 posted on 12/02/2008 11:22:31 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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