Posted on 11/25/2008 9:47:13 PM PST by goldstategop
More than 3,000 people, including longtime Mormon critic James Dobson of Focus on the Family, have signed an online petition thanking the LDS Church for its efforts on behalf of California's traditional marriage initiative known as Proposition 8.
"Anyone who participated in this process has come to admire the competence, diligence and moral courage that so many members of your faith community displayed as part of this coalition effort -- as Catholics, Evangelicals, Mormons and people of other faith communities all came together to fight this great battle for marriage," says the petition, which is addressed to LDS President Thomas S. Monson.
The petition condemns recent protests against Mormon temples and members, saying: "It is deeply unfair, and contrary to the best American traditions, that any faith community, much less a minority one, should be singled out and attacked in this way by powerful, well-funded political forces determined to 'make them pay' for participating in the normal political processes of democracy."
The online effort was created by the National Organization for Marriage, a nonprofit group in Princeton, N.J., organized to lobby, organize and collect donations on behalf of ballot measures defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman.
"We wanted to do something to show we are united in our condemnation of religious bigotry of any form," Brian Brown, NOM's executive director, said Tuesday.
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people of various faith groups, including Catholics, and Evangelicals. Matthew Holland, son of LDS Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, is on the board of directors.
The letter to Monson was written Nov. 15 and signed by representatives of several pro-family groups in addition to Dobson's, including Donald Wildmon of the American Family Association, Charles Colson of Prison Fellowship, Tony Perkins of Family Research Council, Paul Weyrich of Free Congress Foundation, Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention, and Gary Bauer of American Values. It was presented to Monson almost immediately.
This week, organizers posted the petition at abovethehate.com and invited the public to sign.
"We've been amazed by the outpouring of support," Brown said. "People are so grateful that we are standing side by side with [Mormons]."
Organizers will continue to collect signatures for another month, he said, and present the final list to Monson sometime after that.
Also on Tuesday, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops wrote to Monson, offering "prayerful support and steadfast solidarity" to the LDS Church for its efforts on behalf of Proposition 8.
"We have been especially troubled by the reports of explicit and direct targeting of your church personnel and facilities as the objects of hostility and abuse," the bishops wrote. "We pray that prudence and healing may prevail."
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
thank you LDS
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Bump
I’m there, the LDS did a remarkable job of helping to defend Marriage, they should receive thanks and a well done from everyone who cares about defending Marriage.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
bumped and signed
Signed
I signed. I hope the reaction by the religious bigots give enough people a wake up call to remind them of the battle we wage for our children.
Not signing anything like that, but I thank all rightful folks for voting YES on Prop 8. That’s all that matters. And the CA Supremes better keep the Vote of the people.
I signed, then I sent the link to my Christian friends and family members. I asked them to forward on after signing.
I’ll ping the lists tomorrow AM.
Signed it.
Wonderfully worded post too goldstategop. :-)
Is there a link I can email to my cyber list?
Are we becaming one? just as Christ told. Is Jesus coming soon?
Praise the Lord
P.S. thank LDS, we are standing with you in the nature and in spirit. “Is God is for us who can be against us”
PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good work, LDS-folk.
On a slightly more depressing note: I asked the head of a local Southern California Calvary Chapel to endorse Proposition 8 and to make note of it in a sermon. It’s not one of the Calvary Chapel mega churches, but they have at least 500 members. Although I’m evangelical, I don’t attend that church and I asked friends if proposition 8 was ever mentioned from the pulpit, and they said the most that was done on any front was a voter guide and registration in the foyer.
Done!
Register Gays not Guns.
The fact that an investigation into the church’s financial affairs is even considered, brings to the forefront the ignorance of the public about how the Mormon Church is organized and how it operates.
The primary complaint that the homosexual activists came up with is that the Mormon Church did not report the equivalent in dollars of the time spent backing the proposition. For instance if a Bishop of a ward (minister of a local church) spent a portion of his time backing Prop 8, he should have reported a portion of his salary and declared it for IRS purposes.
1. Except for a very few, no one is paid in the Mormon Church. From the janitorial staff up to and including most of the Leaders of the World Wide Church, they are paid nothing, zero, nada. Therefore, there is nothing to report.
2. Except for writing a letter to it’s members( partisan politics is never discussed during church services) only generic constitutional politics such as being the duty of church members to exercise their vote and to research all ballot issues and candidates to ensure that the candidates/issues do not conflict with biblical teachings the Church itself was not involved in the political process.
3. Members of the church willingly and earnestly follow the admonitions of the church leaders. The history of the church and how it survived many organized attacks to destroy the church not only survived but is one of the fastest growing churches in America today is a testement to their faithfullness.
I support Prop 8 and the sanctity of marriage...but cannot sign any congratulatory letter to the LDS...sorry, their jesus and my Jesus are completely different. I stand for the one and only Jesus Christ...not this manufactured Joe Smith idea of Christ.
If a thug on the street tried to rob you at gunpoint and a bystander intervened and scared the robber away, would you not thank him when you found out that he is a Mormon?
>>”...sorry, their jesus and my Jesus are completely different.”<<
How can that be?
I want to thank all the folks who worked to stop the Homosexuals in their drive to S&G II; especially those who did their work in obscurity and not needing stroking and acceptance from men.
And be added to forever as well?
The key verse is “to be seen by them.” It speaks to motivation, and—please pay attention—it has absolutely no application in this instance. Quoting this scripture after LDS and other churches have been threatened for their righteous endeavors would be a little bit like chiding General Washington for accepting the presidency after winning the Revolutionary War.
Christians who fought for proposition 8 didn’t do it to be “seen by men.” They did it to protect their children. Wise up.
DONE
true
I am shocked to have find that there are still some who have some kind of hatred to wards the church , even more so than the homo’s which is just plain weird
they are on our side the homo’s want to silence the right and yet there is a small section who do not understand that
HUH
it is to say thanks that is all
the homo’s are the enemy here not who decide whose God is the real one
so while you want to fight over who is the real religion they homo’s take advantage
we have proved that if we all stick together we can beat them and yet there is still a section who does not realise this and still wants to play my religion is better or more real than yours
<shakes head?
HUH
they helped that is it
the enemy is the homo’s who want to silence you who mock you, not who has the real religion.
unbelievable
Uh huh...
Then WHY all the COMPLAINING by their supports that OTHERS didn't do as much as they??
I can’t even believe I am reading all this
they are the enemy Elsie this is not about my mine is bigger than yours so to speak or better than yours.
They did great, they helped we helped to stop their agenda and they took a big defeat, their church came together and raised a load of cash without it we could and probably would have lost.
many catholic churches didn’t come together, neither did many religions but if we all stay together we can always win instead of playing I don’t like them because they don’t believe the same as me crap
I have never seen our Church crowing about what its members did in California. The Church itself did not give money. The Church quietly asked its members to donate time and money, and they did. Mormons showed up in droves to canvass, put out signs, and man phone banks. There were calls for volunteers for phone banks here in Utah, but no publicity. Other people have pointed out what was done,but not the Church, unless someone asked. It is the homosexuals who have made the biggest issue out of Mormon participation.
You act like our participation in this critical issue was nothing but a cynical publicity stunt, and somehow was ignoble.
Yes, it is the game of divide and conquer. The only thing is they are playing with man’s desire to worship his creator. That links us together and is stronger than them.
I'm sure glad that no one did that; only to point out PRIDE.
Have I said that the Homo's are NOT the enemy?
What I've said is that the MORMONs are complaining that 'other churchs' didn't do as much as they, ahem, did.
But you HAVE seen members, right here on FR, stating the opposite: the 'other chuirches' didn't do as much as the LDS Organization® - based in Salt Lake City - headquartered at Temple Square©.
Oh?
Where?
You are getting your reward from some folks - and lambasting the 'other churches' for not doing as much as the MORMON outfit.
So THAT's why there are no molehills in California!
They have all been turned into mountains!
We pledge to work with you and for you not only to protect marriage, but to protect the rights of all religious citizens, including the LDS Church, to participate freely (without threats of retribution or retaliation) in the political processes of this country in defense of the Judeo-Christian values—and the common good—we hold so dear.
SNIP
I wonder just WHICH ONES they have in mind, since the Organization® has NEVER renounced their opinion of 'Christians' described so vividly in The First Book of Nephi Chapter 14...
So...
...you think we should HATE the HOMO's??
Frankly, I haven’t seen any Mormons pointing fingers at other churches. It has been members of other churches pointing fingers at other churches. Maybe I’ve missed some Mormon posters, but I don’t think so.
some didn’t
that is a fact not all catholic , Anglican churches did
if we were as organised as them and not as liberal we would not let any homo’s get away with anything.
look at the north east where most catholics live
they go to church but have homo’s running around, liberals getting their way etc
so yes they are right but I think you seem to have some sort of problem with Mormons
would you vote for a Mormon Elsie?
Like you said in so many words they do not preach to the right god like you,
it is that view which will tear us all apart so now will you sign or just keep going on about theirs is not the right god bla bla
I do yes
I do
no problem with that they are trying to ruin our country.
you on the other hand have a problem with Mormons because you think your God is the right one
I mean come on Elsie have you seen what you have wrote, your view is very clear about them
holes mountains etc
molehills mountains
Elise dear you lost me
here is what we have the Mormon church gave half of the money to defeat homo marriage and good for them
they are now taking the brunt of the homo’s
and you will not sign to say well done Mormons because you think your God is the right one and there’s is not.
Meanwhile Elsie the homo’s get to do their agenda
look if we all stay together instead of thinking who has the right religion we can defeat homo’s
it is that simple but coming out with they do not follow God is just plain , well wrong to me
yes I do of course I hate them, I am not going to love them am I
why would I like someone who is trying to ruin my children’s future ruin this country
what we should all love each other while those who do not think like that like homo’s and binladen take us over
sounds a bit like chamberlain
exactly it seems Elsie has a big problem with a certain religion while ignoring who the real enemy is
Elsie thinks her religion and her God is the only one and seems to have a big problem with anyone who has a different religion
so sad
it is amazing to see folk like Elsie think she has the right religion and have a prejudice against those who do not have her view.
They helped us and maybe just maybe if it wasn;t for them , for the black churches and the Latinos we would have lost but no she has more feelings against one church instead of people who laugh at her who mock her, who want to silence her and who wants to destroy this country and how we live
I asked to get signatures from the historic Episcopal church in my town and even though the vicar was for it he said that he would not mention it.
I asked around at coffee later and about half would not put their signatures down.
so sad, one woman has 3 stickers on her car praising Dems and yet they stand against everything she is supposed to follow in her faith.
I do not even bother going to church now and just have my kids and I say prayers at night before sleep and meals
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