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UK: Builder forces gipsies off his land... by digging a moat around their camp
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^
| November 26, 2008
Posted on 11/26/2008 8:34:44 AM PST by Stoat
First he encircled them with an 8ft metal fence. And when that failed to move the gipsy camp off his land, he dug a moat.
Builder Francis Shiner resorted to the measures when two gipsy families set up home on the disused car park of a building site in Bedford.
He asked them to move but they didn't. So he went on the offensive and managed to evict them within 48 hours.
Mr Shiner said the gipsies were hindering work on the site owned by Bedford construction company SDC construction and action had to be taken.
He said: 'We went to speak to them and asked them to leave because we intended starting development work. They refused and said they would go the next day.'
To make clear how determined he was, his workers surrounded them with 20 panels of 8ft-high metal fencing but left a 5ft gap for them to leave through.
'We immediately decided to secure the site and left them a small gap so that they could go by 9am the next day, but they were still there in the morning,' said Mr Shiner.
That morning they saw that the gipsies had even made use of the fencing by hanging their washing from it.
In response, Mr Shiner sent in a digger to create a 4ft deep moat around the outside of the fencing, telling the families to move or be trapped. He also issued a writ.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: backhoe; britain; gipsies; greatbritain; gypsies; gypsy; moat; roma; travelers; travellers; uk; unitedkingdom
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Looking out from his caravan, one of the gipsies watches the builders dig a moat around their camp

First the builders put up 20 panels of 8ft high metal fencing to encourage the gipsies to move. When they didn't, they called in the digger to make a moat

The gipsy site before the moat was dug
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Britain's No1 gipsy site KO'd (Over 1000 Travellers evicted after local villagers' protests)
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:34:44 AM PST
by
Stoat
To: Slings and Arrows; backhoe; manc
A police spokesman for Bedfordshire police said they were not involved in the matter 'as common sense prevailed to resolve it peaceably'.He said: 'This was not a matter for us as it didn't escalate into a breach of the peace.
'It is up to landowners to seek legal advice to remove people who move onto their land. It is a civil matter.
'Landowners are also within their rights to build a barricade on their land. If they had trapped the travellers on site, they would not have broken the law.'
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:36:12 AM PST
by
Stoat
(Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
To: Stoat
They could have been trapped by a 4 ft moat! Hey, I’ve got an idea for how we can secure our southern border ...
To: Stoat
Well, there's always napalm..
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:39:06 AM PST
by
Jaxter
(Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum)
To: ClearCase_guy; backhoe
They could have been trapped by a 4 ft moat! Hey, Ive got an idea for how we can secure our southern border ...I'm sure that our friend Backhoe would be delighted to submit a bid for digging a moat along the entire southern border of the United States :-)
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:40:55 AM PST
by
Stoat
(Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
To: Jaxter
I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:41:45 AM PST
by
Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
To: Stoat
Never piss off someone that owns a backhoe!
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:43:13 AM PST
by
Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
To: Travis T. OJustice
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:48:23 AM PST
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: Stoat
“I’m sure that our friend Backhoe “
Isn’t that Obama’s first name? Backhoe?
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:48:58 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
To: Travis T. OJustice
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:49:12 AM PST
by
Stoat
(Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
To: Stoat
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:49:51 AM PST
by
Daffynition
("Beauty is in the sty of the beholder." ~ Joe 6-pack)
To: Stoat
What is happening to the world? Moats are back. Pirates are back (at far more than the usual rate). Even Socialism is back - with an Affirmative Action socialist whose vice president describes him as “articulate and bright and clean”. What else is going to return: the Crusades, the Plague, or both?
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:54:30 AM PST
by
MathDoc
(War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
To: Travis T. OJustice
Wonder if this is the only way Obama will let you own a truck very shortly?
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:55:33 AM PST
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: ZULU
Isnt that Obamas first name? Backhoe? Actually, you might notice that Michelle is usually about 3 paces behind Obama. Occasionally she tries to move up along side him, and then he says ...
To: MathDoc
What else is going to return: the Crusades, the Plague, or both?
- Islamists frequently claim that the Crusades never ended....they are still fighting battles from hundreds of years ago (or more).
- Many scientists and epidemiologists have grave concerns that as various diseases, and the human body, change and become immune to modern medicines, that we will one day soon experience massive worldwide epidemics and will have nothing that can stop their spread.
- During the 1960's, doctors were baffled by a variety of 'new' diseases that began appearing, particularly among hippies living in communes, until they realized that they were nothing new....they were diseases that had been eradicated hundreds of years previously with the advent of modern concepts of hygiene. With the lack of hygiene in communes, the diseases reappeared.
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posted on
11/26/2008 9:09:18 AM PST
by
Stoat
(Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
To: Stoat
anyone else reminded of that episode of king of the hill where they used a similar method to get the hippies off the national park?
To: Stoat; Tax-chick
My relatives in Ireland recently told me that some tinkers had set up camp in the center of the island formed by a round-a-bout (traffic circle). They had to be paid over a million euro in order to get rid of them.
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posted on
11/26/2008 9:17:12 AM PST
by
Incorrigible
(If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
To: Travis T. OJustice
On the other hand, that could simply be a secure parking spot... LOL...
To: Stoat
Alligators, where are the alligators?
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posted on
11/26/2008 9:22:32 AM PST
by
Ancesthntr
(An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
To: Stoat

Hippies!
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posted on
11/26/2008 9:24:43 AM PST
by
50sDad
(-/\/\/\- Obama's coming; be a Resistor!)
To: Daffynition
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posted on
11/26/2008 9:25:50 AM PST
by
prismsinc
(AIP works for ME!!!!)
To: ClearCase_guy
BAD!!! BAD BAD BAD!!!!! VERY BAD!!!!
(But clever.)
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posted on
11/26/2008 9:29:28 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
To: Stoat
A little background here on this business. First of all the politically correct persons declared the word "Gypsy" a forbidden word. This was because over the years it became a word of contempt, not the romantic versions. The word became "Travellers".
Then the people who were claimants to the original and known "gypsies" became angered. They did not want to be known as "Travellers". So, once again the word became sort of accepted. Now the England and Wales births, marriages and deaths registry, was very meticulous. It was instituted in 1837. The census proper was started in 1851. Every ten years they knocked on doors. The 1841 census not too comprehensive.
Researchers have shown that only 5000 to 7000 persons exist in the UK as having any lineage to "Gypsy" that would go to 1901. There are reputed 95,000 "travellers" adrift and living off welfare benefits in that country. They are protected by the "human rights" acts as sort of being like gypsies.
The census is the arbiter of many claims. It outed Charlie Chaplin who claimed he was descended from Jewish people. Looked good. He was descended from Protestant French. (Chuckle).
To: Incorrigible
Invaders should be harshly dealt with, the old fashioned way. Our ancestors were made of sterner stuff.
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posted on
11/26/2008 9:37:24 AM PST
by
TexasRepublic
(Comrade, can you spare a slice of bread?)
To: Stoat

Heyacantbuildamoatroundmehomeyaknow?!
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posted on
11/26/2008 9:42:45 AM PST
by
VaBthang4
("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
To: Stoat
An agitated skunk up wind of the parking lot might have provided a gentle motivation to leave as well.
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posted on
11/26/2008 11:48:41 AM PST
by
Myrddin
To: Stoat
I admit that gypsies are one group that I totaly prejudge, having had experiences with them in my town, where they scammed the elderly.
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posted on
11/26/2008 12:06:14 PM PST
by
happygrl
(BORG: Barack 0bama Resistance Group: we will not be assimilated)
To: Peter Libra
A little background here on this business.Sincerely appreciated and interesting, thank you :-)
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posted on
11/27/2008 4:43:02 AM PST
by
Stoat
(Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
To: Myrddin
An agitated skunk up wind of the parking lot might have provided a gentle motivation to leave as well. "Skunk-wrangling" could be the next big growth industry :-)
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posted on
11/27/2008 4:44:48 AM PST
by
Stoat
(Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
To: happygrl
I admit that gypsies are one group that I totaly prejudge, having had experiences with them in my town, where they scammed the elderly.I'm very sorry to hear that. There's a special place in Hell for trash who take advantage of our Seasoned Citizens and treat them poorly or criminally.
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posted on
11/27/2008 4:48:10 AM PST
by
Stoat
(Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
To: Stoat
I had a skunk run into my garage in San Diego. He decided to settle down under my Porsche 914. My wife quietly set a "Hav-a-hart" trap with hot dogs for bait. That has the advantage of keeping the tail down. Once trapped, we put a tarp over the trap, loaded it into the back of our Toyota pickup and release the skunk back into the local canyon. There was no need or desire to agitate that one.
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posted on
11/27/2008 10:27:12 AM PST
by
Myrddin
To: ClearCase_guy
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posted on
07/17/2009 1:36:56 PM PDT
by
elcid1970
("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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