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Obama's War Cabinet Gates and Jones are welcome signs of continuity.
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 11/28/2008 | The Wall Street Journal

Posted on 11/28/2008 7:32:31 AM PST by obamaisandrogynous

The names floated for Barack Obama's national security team "are drawn exclusively from conservative, centrist and pro-military circles without even a single -- yes, not one! -- chosen to represent the antiwar wing of the Democratic party." In his plaintive post this week on the Nation magazine's Web site, Robert Dreyfuss indulges in the political left's wonderful talent for overstatement. But who are we to interfere with his despair?

If reports are correct, on Monday the President-elect will ask Robert Gates to stay on as Secretary of Defense and name retired Marine General James Jones as National Security Adviser. These are the Administration posts most critical to the successful conduct of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bhodod; bhosecdef; iraq; jamesjones; obama; obamatransitionfile; thenation; warcabinet
I am so happy the Left feels betrayed by Obama's picks for national security positions. Let's see what Demo turnout is in 2010 and 2012 when their messiah still has ongoing conflicts overseas, and detainees at GITMO.
1 posted on 11/28/2008 7:32:31 AM PST by obamaisandrogynous
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Good lord.

A ray of Sunshine poking through the clouds of doom.


2 posted on 11/28/2008 7:35:45 AM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
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To: obamaisandrogynous
Thought Obama wanted to create a “Department of Peace” with Dennis Kucinich at the helm.
3 posted on 11/28/2008 7:36:07 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Just read another thread about Obama’s book, in which he says his tactic is to smile and be reassuring and [in relation to this thread] “don’t make any sudden moves”.


4 posted on 11/28/2008 7:37:26 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Perhaps reality hit home. Nothing will destroy his presidency faster than a weak response to foreign or terrorist attacks.


5 posted on 11/28/2008 7:43:42 AM PST by yazoo
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To: obamaisandrogynous
From Time Magazine article today:

A word of advice (to the Left): cheer up. It's precisely because Obama intends to pursue a genuinely progressive foreign policy that he's surrounding himself with people who can guard his right flank at home. When George W. Bush wanted to sell the Iraq war, he trotted out Colin Powell--because Powell was nobody's idea of a hawk. Now Obama may be preparing to do the reverse. To give himself cover for a withdrawal from Iraq and a diplomatic push with Iran, he's surrounding himself with people like Gates, Clinton and Jones, who can't be lampooned as

6 posted on 11/28/2008 7:45:15 AM PST by Zechariah11
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To: obamaisandrogynous
It is politically smart for Obama to name re-assuring picks for the opening bell but I would reserve judgment until we see how long these guys last, once Obama gets his hands on the levers of power.

I recall his oft-repeated promise that "on day one"(That's going to be a busy day) he will give the Sec/Def and Joint Chiefs "new orders" which will be to bail and flee from Iraq, leaving the field to AlQaeda.

7 posted on 11/28/2008 7:49:54 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: yazoo

I saw General Franks on Hannity and Moron a couple of weeks ago. Franks predicted that some of the Messiah’s opinions would change once he got all his national security briefings. Maybe that has something to do with what we’re seeing here.


8 posted on 11/28/2008 7:50:02 AM PST by GenXFreedomFighter
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To: obamaisandrogynous

If administrations change and policies don’t, you may be sure there is a(n) (ongoing) conspiracy.


9 posted on 11/28/2008 7:53:20 AM PST by RoadTest (By their fruits shall ye know them.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

You’re happy that we’re going to remain that world’s nanny at a cost a of a trillion dollars per year? You’ll be overjoyed when Obama sends some troops to Darfur I suppose.


10 posted on 11/28/2008 7:54:27 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: BenLurkin

“Thought Obama wanted to create a “Department of Peace” with Dennis Kucinich at the helm. “

Aaaaaargghh! Don’t give them any ideas!


11 posted on 11/28/2008 7:55:36 AM PST by RoadTest (By their fruits shall ye know them.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

I’m looking at Obama’s cabinet and realizing that McCain would have picked a much more liberal cabinet. Let’s see how it pans out. When it comes to Supreme Court picks remember that Prop. 8 in CA. was shot down by the Afro-Amer, community. Also the majority of Afro-Amer. are against abortion. So far so good and Colin Powell still doesn’t have a job.


12 posted on 11/28/2008 8:00:34 AM PST by kenmcg (cOMMBYAH)
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To: Captain Kirk

The Iraq War costs a trillion a year? Give me a break. Go to Democratic Underground if you want to make ignorant statements like that. Winning the Iraq War is not being the “world’s nanny.” It’s winning a war. Bush deserves credit for winning this war, but only Obama will get credit for “bringing the troops home.”


13 posted on 11/28/2008 8:01:27 AM PST by obamaisandrogynous
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To: Zechariah11

Interesting point, but I would take it as propaganda. Consider the source. Time Magazine last week had a cover with Obama as FDR. What would a “genuinely progressive” foreign policy look like? Handing prayer beads to the Iranians? Cuddling with Putin? Time magazine has what William F. Buckley, in Up from Liberalism, called, “liberal mania.”


14 posted on 11/28/2008 8:04:21 AM PST by obamaisandrogynous
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To: obamaisandrogynous

“change” means no bush.

after the msm attacked bush for 8 years, and he didn’t defend himself.

and the child-man obama’s figured out that folks miss bill and hill.


15 posted on 11/28/2008 8:06:38 AM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Ignorant? Before you go down that road, you might want to re-read my post. I didn’t mention the Iraq war. I said that the cost of being the world’s nanny was a trillion dollars per year.


16 posted on 11/28/2008 8:06:41 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

And what do you imagine the cost of becoming an isolationist “Fortress America” would be?

Read the lessons of history. If you fail to understand them, they are more likely to repeat themselves.


17 posted on 11/28/2008 8:17:42 AM PST by neocon1984
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To: neocon1984

I’m probably more of an internationalist than you are. I’m for free trade and leading by example as we did so successfully for the first 150 years of our history. We were the most popular country in the world before WWI and inspired countless revolutions. How many have we inspired lately?


18 posted on 11/28/2008 8:20:46 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: obamaisandrogynous

so why were the dems so excited about obama? he’s just another politician!


19 posted on 11/28/2008 9:31:44 AM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you for everything!)
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To: obamaisandrogynous
"The Gates selection is an implicit endorsement of President Bush's "surge" in Iraq and its military architect, General David Petraeus."

I would love to be a witness to a moonbat after it reads that sentence.

20 posted on 11/28/2008 9:38:04 AM PST by avacado
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To: neocon1984
Read the lessons of history. If you fail to understand them, they are more likely to repeat themselves.

History tells us that if we are going to be the world's cop we need to collect tribute...er I mean taxes.


21 posted on 11/28/2008 9:46:14 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady from the North")
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To: Captain Kirk

I’m for free trade but I’m also for strong defense in the Reagan tradition. We need to protect our interests around the world.

Liberals, on the other hand, want to use the military as a humanitarian force (haiti, rwanda) under UN command and meddle with Israeli politics. Neocons, like Bush, wanted to promote democracy for the sake of democracy, such as in Gaza. That resulted in bringing Hamas to power. There’s a reason why we are a republic, not a democracy. We have to oppose such ideas.

As for “How many have we inspired lately?”
off the top of my head: Anbar Awakening, Rose and Orange revolutions


22 posted on 11/28/2008 9:48:31 AM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you for everything!)
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To: avacado

Biden, Hillary, Gates. He can’t pick anyone who was against the war because he doesn’t want to pick an idiot.


23 posted on 11/28/2008 9:51:00 AM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you for everything!)
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To: ari-freedom
He can’t pick anyone who was against the war because he doesn’t want to pick an idiot.

He needs at least one idiot in his cabinet...if nothing else but for the laughs and giggles.


24 posted on 11/28/2008 10:01:05 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady from the North")
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To: ari-freedom
Liberals, on the other hand, want to use the military as a humanitarian force (haiti, rwanda) under UN command and meddle with Israeli politics. Neocons, like Bush, wanted to promote democracy for the sake of democracy, such as in Gaza. That resulted in bringing Hamas to power. There’s a reason why we are a republic, not a democracy. We have to oppose such ideas.

I'm not the one on this thread defending the "liberal" Obama's foreign policy. The diffence between the neocons and the liberal Obamaites these days appears to be disappearing. Over at Commentary, the neocons are heaping praise on Obama. A few weeks ago, they regarded him as scumbag peacenik. What a diffence a few weeks makes. It seems that the neocons are defecting back to their original home, the Democratic Party, and good riddance.

The Anbar Awakening is democratic? Have you heard some of the guys interviewed? They were killing Americans not so long ago and continue to hate the Shi'ite dominated Iraqi government.

25 posted on 11/28/2008 10:55:18 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: obamaisandrogynous

I think that Obama has a “two term” strategy. He’ll govern center-left for his first term and then if reelected as a centrist, he’ll move hard left for a second term when he’s term limited.


26 posted on 11/28/2008 1:10:05 PM PST by jamese777 (qu)
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To: roaddog727
"A ray of Sunshine poking through the clouds of doom"

J. Jones is anything but a "ray of sunshine" as NSA! He is a PC-loving bureaucrat who spent 4 years as Commandant trying to refashion the Corps into a French army lookalike!

27 posted on 11/28/2008 3:27:59 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Lost in all of this is the fact that we won the war in Iraq and we are outta there by end of 2011 at the latest.

Wouldn’t have mattered if McCain, Obama, Bush 3rd term, General Patton won the election. It’s over.


28 posted on 11/28/2008 3:48:27 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Zechariah11

Only problem with Time’s take is that these people are not cardboard cutouts. It is highly unlikely that any of them would take the job without a sense that Obama will heed their advice. On Obama’s part he has to do this or face the embarassing event of multiple resignations for cause if he were to cut any one of them off at the knees. Hillary for one would not hesitate to resign if she sees political benefit in undercutting Obama.


29 posted on 11/28/2008 6:02:26 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: xkaydet65
Only problem with Time’s take is that these people are not cardboard cutouts. It is highly unlikely that any of them would take the job without a sense that Obama will heed their advice.

A very good point!

30 posted on 11/29/2008 6:54:24 AM PST by Zechariah11
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To: jamese777

I agree, especially after securing the votes of the new Latino citizens.


31 posted on 11/29/2008 6:59:15 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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