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Barack Obama: God's choice ?
WND ^ | November 29, 2008 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 11/29/2008 3:35:23 PM PST by RobinMasters

Did God play a role in the election of Barack Obama, and could the Democrat even be God's sovereign choice for our next president?

The answers to those questions vary widely, depending on who is doing the answering.

Among those praising the heavens for Obama's victory was Larry Younginer of suburban Atlanta, who the Chicago Tribune reports kneeling at his church and praying the day after Obama's victory.

"Lord, we have again come to you," Younginger prayed, "and you have heard our cries from heaven, and you have sent us again from the state called Illinois a man called Barack to heal our land."

The Rev. Randolph Bracy Jr. at New Covenant Baptist Church of Orlando, told the Orlando Sentinel that the victory of a young and inexperienced Obama was like the victory of the biblical boy, David, over the giant, Goliath.

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1 posted on 11/29/2008 3:35:23 PM PST by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Mmmmm. So Obama is sent from God, and Bush is sent from ... Sounds like very dangerous theology to me.


2 posted on 11/29/2008 3:38:17 PM PST by rayincolorado ("Those who forget the past, are condemned to repeat it ...")
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To: RobinMasters

I am sure that prayer had to be scraped off the ceiling because that is as far as it went.
God hears the cries alright but not from the unrighteous it is the cries of 50 million slaughtered babies. Just like the blood of Abel cried out to him.


3 posted on 11/29/2008 3:38:57 PM PST by mkcc30 (Reagan's shadow had more substance than Obama!)
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To: RobinMasters

I wonder if these people can even see the noses on their faces.


4 posted on 11/29/2008 3:39:05 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: RobinMasters
Boy, are these idiots going to be disappointed!

This is precisely why our Founders didn't grant to vote to those who were irresponsible and incapable of self support.

5 posted on 11/29/2008 3:39:09 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: RobinMasters

Why post this crap?

You at least owe freepers the courtesy of posting this trash in the bloggers forum.


6 posted on 11/29/2008 3:39:32 PM PST by Jean S
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To: RobinMasters
"Lord, we have again come to you," Younginger prayed, "and you have heard our cries from heaven, and you have sent us again from the state called Illinois a man called Barack to heal our land."

As a German pastor proclaimed, once upon a time, "There was a man sent from God, and his name was Adolph Hitler."

7 posted on 11/29/2008 3:39:39 PM PST by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: RobinMasters

God always ordains every authority under heaven....this is not news. The reason God has placed Obama as president is to bring Americans to repentance and turn back to God. This Reverand saying that God will bless America through Obama is a false prophet.


8 posted on 11/29/2008 3:39:45 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: RobinMasters

How about, “God allowed”?


9 posted on 11/29/2008 3:42:40 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Obama is bringing in every crook and bumbler he can to assure consistency in his message.)
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To: Jean S

I will agree with you.


10 posted on 11/29/2008 3:43:38 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: RobinMasters
Get the prozac ready for these imbeciles, the messiah will be a liberal flop, If he's smart he'll move to the center right. If he doesn't he will have his hands full abroad and definitely here.
11 posted on 11/29/2008 3:43:45 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( When CHANGE comes let me know, I'll put my tin foil hat on and sit in front of myTV)
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To: RobinMasters

Further proof that there is no god.


12 posted on 11/29/2008 3:43:58 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: RobinMasters

I always found the curious “Divine right of Kings meets the Ballot box” line of thought vexing, the issue can end up in either side of the ledger.

For example, the people choose Saul, the Lord chose David, however, Ahab and Ahaz were also Kings in Israel and they did that which was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and then even Christ was born under a Tyrant, Herrod, but claimed His Kingdom was not of this world.

Obama has done neither good nor ill as of yet, so if we look for the fruit to know a tree, we shall see what sort of fruit his time in Office produces and whether that comports with the Lord’s Will as expressed in the Scriptures and by using our Discernment...


13 posted on 11/29/2008 3:44:29 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Taggart_D

“Among those praising the heavens for Obama’s victory was Larry Younginer of suburban Atlanta, who the Chicago Tribune reports kneeling at his church and praying the day after Obama’s victory.”

What a coincidence: I, too, was on my knees praying BEFORE the election and AFTER the election (something even after years in campaigns & poliics I always held off doing — it seemed unseemly to pray to God for political victories) that God would still protect my country from The Murderists and Socialist Democrats.

As we say at Mass: “God, hear our prayer”.


14 posted on 11/29/2008 3:45:19 PM PST by Nick Thimmesch
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To: RobinMasters

Zero passes FOCA and all hell breaks loose.

He has a choice. If he makes the wrong choice, this country is in for an awakening.

God isn’t mocked.


15 posted on 11/29/2008 3:46:02 PM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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To: RobinMasters

God is in control of ALL things, even the election of obuma but not because He’s blessing us. Just as he sent plagues to Egypt to force Pharoah and the people of Egypt to repent and turn to God, so could be the election of obuma. That things could get SO bad we turn to God, cry out to him and THEN will he heal our land.


16 posted on 11/29/2008 3:46:45 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: freekitty

He has posted 350 articles and 100 comments since he signed up on 10/10/08.

Maybe he’s using FR to archive his articles.


17 posted on 11/29/2008 3:47:08 PM PST by Jean S
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To: RobinMasters

God doesn’t have a particular candidate. He gave us Free Will to make a choice between good and evil.


19 posted on 11/29/2008 3:50:30 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Jean S

Jean S:

Hey that’s cool info about the number of posts/comments (although it sounds lopsided with posts vs. comments).

Forgive my ignorance and I’m sure it’s somewhere at Freep, but how does one find that info? And what do you consider to be the difference between the Freep Forum and The Freep Blog. Juz asking....


20 posted on 11/29/2008 3:51:15 PM PST by Nick Thimmesch
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To: Taggart_D

More likely Obama was sent by another agency to pave the way for the end times. Babylon(Iraq) had to be freed first.


21 posted on 11/29/2008 3:53:30 PM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: RobinMasters

22 posted on 11/29/2008 3:54:31 PM PST by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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To: RobinMasters

A few weeks ago one of our fellow Freepers pointed out 1 Samuel chapter 8, in which the people beg God for a king. He responds (paraphrased), okay, you want a king, you can have one, and you will reap the consequences.


23 posted on 11/29/2008 3:54:32 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: RobinMasters
I think it's more likely to be akin to when Israel clamored for a king and chose Saul, even though God warned them and had already chosen David.

As for God "choosing" leaders to do His will, people should pay close attention to things such as Revelation 17:17 where it reads -

(NKJV) For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.

Revelation 17:17 is talking about 10 kings of the earth. Powerful men, even if for a short time.

God let Israel suffer a bad king, but do people say that Saul was God's choice? David did acknowledge Saul as "God's Anointed" and refused to kill him on several occasions because of this, but Saul was most definitely NOT God's choice.

I'm betting that Obama is more likely to be one of the 10 who give their authority over to the beast. Let us not forget that his ilk fully endorse the murder of the unborn, homosexuality, and the denial of God. They will give sovereignty away in the name of "unity", and why not? It's in their nature!

Poorly directed free will is probably one of the most debilitating facets of human nature, and it is PRECISELY why we have the empty paper sack of a president elect that we have now.


24 posted on 11/29/2008 3:54:47 PM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: Ingtar
More likely Obama was sent by another agency to pave the way for the end times. Babylon(Iraq) had to be freed first.

Good grief; I hope that's not true.

I'd hate to think that thousands of us, most of us Christians, would have played a part in that.

25 posted on 11/29/2008 3:57:17 PM PST by Allegra ( Jet lag - it's the new drug.)
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To: rayincolorado

Now you have to understand, there are some very different aspects of “God” to different people. Not all the “angels” are on the side of goodness and light, and if there were no Devil, God would have to invent an equivalent counter-diety. The Zoroastrians had a reasonably good concept, with Ahriman representing the “dark forces”, and Ahura Mazda representing the “light”.

We just have people who have used the two dieties as moral equivalents, and they honestly do not know the difference.

Which makes their prayer no less sincere, that they pray to a God who represents the spread of darkness.


26 posted on 11/29/2008 3:58:01 PM PST by alloysteel (Molon labe! Roughly translated, "Come and take them!" referring to personal weapons.)
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To: Jean S

LOL.


27 posted on 11/29/2008 4:03:43 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: hiredhand

“God let Israel suffer a bad king, but do people say that Saul was God’s choice? David did acknowledge Saul as “God’s Anointed” and refused to kill him on several occasions because of this, but Saul was most definitely NOT God’s choice.”


True.

The same was true of the selection of Mao Ze Dong in China, Hitler in Germany, and many other despots.

Nations who have taken their eyes off God and His word and make material things their idols, always eventually find a walking-talking god/idol. And God permits them to have their choice to teach them what they have become.

It’s also a lesson in what godless DEMOCRACY produces when a republic forgets that its founders insisted on a republican form of government, and so they begin using mob-action democracy to choose their leaders.


28 posted on 11/29/2008 4:04:48 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: RobinMasters

No,he was the choice of almost half the U.S., God just allowed them to choose the PE and our complacency chose the PE.


29 posted on 11/29/2008 4:05:18 PM PST by madison10
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To: RobinMasters
No, Obama was not sent from God. But, there are times when God allows certain events to take place to wake HIS people up out of their apathetic state.

Knowing this will upset some but oh well, admit it, overall, many who claim to be Christians are lazy, scared, intimidated and many are now PC, thus, we have something like Obama elected as President of the United States. Yeah, sometimes things have to take place to wake a nation up.

So, get ready.

30 posted on 11/29/2008 4:05:22 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Allegra

Things that had to happen that I would have sworn 10 years ago would never happen in my lifetime:

Babylon had to be freed in order to fulfill her role in the end times (We started that ball rolling. It was a good deed done for the correct reasons, but it will have consequences.)

The Gospel had to be preached to all the nations of the world. (After 911, at the memorial service, Billy Graham gave the basics of the Gospel. What tugged at my spirit was hearing the announcers say that this broadcast was sent to “every nation of the world.”


31 posted on 11/29/2008 4:11:23 PM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: RobinMasters

If God chose him, then God has some work to do to change his heart. God would not choose a man who votes for unlimited abortion and post abortion infanticide.


32 posted on 11/29/2008 4:21:27 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ConservativeMind
How about, “God allowed”?

You're right, He gives us free will. Perhaps this had to happen in order for us to regain our liberties and our strength that so many of us have prayed for.

Perhaps we needed to be awakened.

Again.

33 posted on 11/29/2008 4:27:52 PM PST by Allegra ( Jet lag - it's the new drug.)
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To: RobinMasters
Barack Obama: God's choice judgment

There. Fixed it.

34 posted on 11/29/2008 4:34:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance (AIPNEWS.com - America's Independent Party: "Peace through superior firepower!")
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To: Ingtar
Before the election, I was up in the middle of the night praying. It seems those are the times he likes to grab my attention.

I don't claim to "know" Gods will, but I felt God impressed upon me that Obama would win, and that end time events were going to speed up, and to prepare.

I don't think end time events will speed up "because" of Obama. He is just the one who will be used to facilitate things along.

I don't see the US being a player in prophecy. Which means the US has to be minimalized for prophetic completion.

There is a coming war, commonly refered to the war of Gog and Magog. Israel is attacked by Russia and Iran and a coalition of other nations. According to the Bible, no one defends Israel. In fact Israel doesn't even get to defend itself. But God defends Israel, and makes it very apparent that it was a true "act of God" that defends Israel. The nations that rise up against Israel will be virtually wiped off the face of the earth. 1/5th of the earths population will be destroyed. It will take Israel 7 months just to bury the dead.

Right now the US is strong enough to be a deterrent to Russia and Iraq. Our nation must be removed from the forefront, to allow this coalition to advance. I think Obama is the one to "weaken" our world stature.

I wish I could live in an age were the US was strong and vibrant, and could persue all my dreams. But I think those days are ending. I think world events are orchestrating to bring a "savior" from world wide war, and famine, and economic crisis.

I think Christians need to shift their focus from "earthly" dreams to kingdom needs. We need to focus on the harvest. The fields are ready, and the weather is about to change.

35 posted on 11/29/2008 4:58:09 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: silverleaf

I know God changed St. Paul’s heart, but I am really having a difficult time accepting that a change of barack’s heart is part of God’s Plan.........


36 posted on 11/29/2008 5:01:11 PM PST by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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To: RobinMasters

Obama won this election on lies, cover-ups, deceit, and thievery. I don’t think God would approve of these methods but the Anti-Christ would.


37 posted on 11/29/2008 5:01:34 PM PST by USAF70 (I'm a bitter clinger)
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To: RobinMasters

“For wicked men are found among my people, they watch like fowlers lying in wait; they set a trap, they catch men. Like a cage full of birds, so their houses are full of deceit, therefore they have become great and rich. They are fat, they are sleek. They also excel in deeds of wickedness; they do not plead the cause, the cause of the orphan, that they may prosper; and they do not defend the rights of the poor. Shall I not punish these people?” declares the Lord.

“On a nation such as this, shall I not avenge myself? An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land; the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule on their own authority; and my people love it so! But what will you do at the end of it?”

Jeremiah 5:26-31


38 posted on 11/29/2008 5:04:00 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: John Leland 1789
I personally believe that the nation won't survive this. Too many people as so ignorant of God's Word to think that we're so great a nation that God would go so far as to choose our leader?! We don't even rate in the scriptures! ...other than being bundled with the rest of the Goyim.

People should look past this and prepare for the results of what we're seeing the beginnings of now. But they aren't. Americans don't want to "lose" anything. They don't want to lose the house in the cul-de-sac, the medical insurance, the high speed Internet access....every nicety and creature comfort that we enjoy here in America. Too many have forgotten that peace and prosperity are only gained at the expense of force rendered with godly wisdom. Too many "sell" their vote to pandering politicians who promise a temporary security, which results in the willing forfeiture of "inalienable" rights. Too many in this nation have become slaves. The financial crisis which we're all observing now gives proof to what I've just written, but there are other things as well although there's not enough room here to write them all.

Judgment is coming to this nation, and people should "disconnect" from it now and turn to the Lord Yeshua (Jesus).
39 posted on 11/29/2008 5:11:18 PM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: padre35

***Obama has done neither good nor ill as of yet***

Wait till he signs the FOCA and Catholic Hospitals and staff have the “choice” to abort babies or shut down.


40 posted on 11/29/2008 5:16:23 PM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: RobinMasters

Obama was not sent from God but God allowed him to be elected. God watched as Obama skillfuly clouded a majority of the electorates minds with his smooth empty talking and platitudes. Now that Obama has been elected this country will pay a price. What form that price will take, I do not know, but I along with millions of others will know it when the time to pay is due.


41 posted on 11/29/2008 5:24:50 PM PST by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: RobinMasters

Oh yeah, The Lord is just as pleased as punch with Barry! He has the most pro-abortion record imaginable! God just loves that! SARCASM ON.


42 posted on 11/29/2008 5:28:15 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("Those guys are jerks!" Saracuda)
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To: EternalVigilance

Harumph!


43 posted on 11/29/2008 5:32:05 PM PST by ScoochDude
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To: RobinMasters
“Obama was like the victory of the biblical boy, David, over the giant, Goliath.”

Obama slew McCain bases on lies/bearing false witness. Apparently blacks can only hear what MLK Jr says and not actually listen about not the “color of the skin” but the actual “character” underneath.

As far as Christianity goes, this prophet/savior “sent” by God to “clean” things up will have a different result than what this reprobate who claims to be a “Reverend” preaching the Gospel, has in mind.

44 posted on 11/29/2008 5:40:05 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Taggart_D

You said — “God always ordains every authority under heaven....this is not news. The reason God has placed Obama as president is to bring Americans to repentance and turn back to God. This Reverand saying that God will bless America through Obama is a false prophet.”

I’ve been posting that Obama is what this country gets as judgement from God...


45 posted on 11/29/2008 5:52:44 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: RobinMasters
God is in charge. He picks our leaders. A God-fearing, reverent people, will get good leaders. A narcissistic, idol-worshiping people, won't. There are many references in Scripture. I like two from Daniel 4.

Daniel 4:17b ...that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

Daniel 4:37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.

And so here we are...Repent and pray. For HE has also promised

2 Chronicles 7:13-14 If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people; If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Locusts may be devouring our land. We may be suffering from the drought of wisdom. Base men and women may abound as our 'leaders'. But we have the gift of prayer - and so we shall. Repent and pray.

46 posted on 11/29/2008 5:58:32 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Bobalu

So sayeth the MSM.

If there are any 666 marks..look on their foreheads.


47 posted on 11/29/2008 6:00:38 PM PST by berdie
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To: RobinMasters

The most basic founding principle of our republic is that power is conferred by the electorate, not by God. The founders believed it was important to make the distinction clear: there’s no divine right of kings (or presidents) in a democracy.


48 posted on 11/29/2008 6:16:26 PM PST by Capn Nickerson
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To: Allegra

What if it is true, though? How does a Christian reconcile something like that in their mind? Rhetorical question only.


49 posted on 11/29/2008 6:20:28 PM PST by kozanne
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To: mountn man

“I don’t claim to “know” Gods will, but I felt God impressed upon me that Obama would win, and that end time events were going to speed up, and to prepare.”

Yes sir, the exact same thing happened to me repeatedly during the campaign. It could have been me writing down what you just stated.

Wow. Thought I was the only one. Never told anyone except hubby until I saw your post.


50 posted on 11/29/2008 6:23:09 PM PST by kozanne
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