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Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae(obama birth in Kenya)
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae ^ | Oct 27, 2008 | Bishop Ron McRae

Posted on 11/29/2008 7:48:00 PM PST by ckilmer

This affidavit is part of the Berg Case:

Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae, I, Bishop Ron McRae am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a party to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows:

I am the Continental Bishop who oversees the Anabaptists Churches in North America. I am also the Presiding Elder on the African Presbytery, where we have numerous churches throughout Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and mission works to several other African nations. The African Presbytery is comprised of the national bishops of the various countries we minister in and support, along with our statewide bishops from New York and Pennsylvania.

We actively visit and minister throughout these African countries, and do so extensively throughout all of Kenya these last three (3) years. in overseeing the establishment of our churches and presbytery to Kenya over the last two (2) years we have had personal dealings, continually, with many citizens of Kenya from every tribe and economic standing throughout the wonderful nation of Kenya, with whom the national interests in United States Senator Barack Hussein Obama is a very popular topic of discussion. The tribal cultures of the Kenyanese people have involved much turmoil during the national elections at the end of December 2007 and the beginning of 2008.

The much published violence that erupted over the presidential elections caught the world’s attention. Myself and several American minister with our church were present during this time in Kenya, and the facts concerning this strife and the ensuing violence were well known, and of common knowledge throughout all of Kenya.

The opposition party that was responsible for all of the violence was from the minority Luo tribe, which is a Muslim tribe that supported Mr. Raila Odinga for president. Raila Odinga is a Marxist socialist who graduated from the East Germany Magdeburg University in 1970 on a scholarship from the East German government. He named his first born son after Fidel Castro. Raila Odinga spent six years in prison for his admitted involvement in the bloody coup attempt in 1982 to over take and assissinate Daniel Arap Moi, Kenya’s President. Mr. Odinga has publicly admitted to being the leader of that coup in his 2006.

Mr. Odinga is the cousin of United States Senator Barack Obama. Mr. Obama is from the same Muslim tribe, the Luo Tribe, as Mr. Odinga. Senator Obama visited Kenya in August of 2006 and campaigned extensively for his cousin, Mr. Odinga, which gave Odinga a tremendous boost. During Senator Obama’s campaign stops on behalf of his cousin Odinga, the Senator made numerous claims against the democratic government of Kenya and Kenya’s Presidcent Mwai Kibaki, claiming they were corrupt, stating often, that Kenya was “ready for change”, just as he has campaigned here in the United States during the Presidential election. It has been common knowledge throughout Kenya that Senator Obama sent his foreign policy advisor, Mr. Mark Lippert, to Kenya at least three times to advise Mr.Odinga on his campaign strategies. See Mark Hyman’s Washington Times article published October, 12, 2008, attached as Exhibit “I”. Moreover, everyone in Kenya is well aware that Senator Obama donated over one million American dollars ($1,000,000) to his cousin’s, Mr. Odinga’s campaign, which is documented in the Kenyan Political Party, for Mr. Odinga. Orange Democratic Movement (hereinafter “ODM”) along with extensive funds from other Muslim supporters including but not limited to the Muslim son of Muammar Gadhafi, the dictator of Libyan’s Muslim government. These issues are common knowledge throughout Kenya, and the information is publicly document across the internet.

It is detailed in Odinga’s financial reports and strategies ODM Internal Memo documents, attached as Exhibit “2″, which are public records, that a significant portion of Senator Obama’s financial contributions (made through an organization identified as Friends of Senator Barack Obama) were used to help finance both the signed Muslim Memorandum of Understanding as well as the planned violence, murders and bloodshed that occurred in December of 2007. Within the ODM Internal Memo attached as Exhibit “2″, the funds donated by Mr. Obama through “Friends of Senator Barack Obama” were to be used for “Violence as a last result…to discourage voter participation in hostile areas..use ODM agents on the ground to engineer ethnic tensions in target areas…support Kapondi’s forces in Mt. Eglori”, and to do as during “Mid-December”. Unfortunately, the exact violence described in these reports was carried out and occurred at the beginning of the second week of December 2007.

Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States. Mr. Obama’s cousin ran his failed campaign for the Kenyan presidency in the identical fashion of Senator Obama’s American campaign strategy, and that being to join a nominal Christian Church in order to publicly profess to be a Christian, while maintaining their actual Muslim beliefs, in order to sway public opinion away from the actual fact of his strong Muslim beliefs, family and goals. It is a known fact that membership in the United Church of Christ in Chicago, where Barack Obama was a member, does not require muslims to renounce their Islamic faith in order to join the UCC church. Throughout Kenya it is and was well publicized in the media that a Memorandum of Understanding agrement, attached as Exhibit “3″, between Raila Odinga and Shiek Abdullahi Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum, was signed by Odinga in August 29, 2007 in which Raila Odinga promised if elected to implement drastic changes including but not limited to the following:

* Recognize “Islam as the only true religion” * “Islamic leaders would have an oversight rule to monitor activities of ALL other religions (emphasis in the original) * Installation of Shariah courts in every jurisdiction to implement Islamic law * Implement a ban on Christian preaching

Because of the seriousness of all of the above, as a Christian and a citizen of the United States, this preacher could no longer sit idly by knowing these things and continue to minister in both Kenya and the United States. As the presiding bishop over the Continental Presbytery of Africa, I authorized representatives within our church to locate and interview Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama, the actual grandmother of US Senator Barack Obama. Ms. Sarah Obama lives in the Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from Kisumu, where the Anabaptists have a congregation, and where this preacher has preached several times prior to the December elections in 2007, and prior to the planned violence from the Odinga supporters, which erupted.

With Senator Obama being born in Kenya and not in the United States, he is not a “natural born” citizen and it prohibits him from being eligible to run for and/or serve as President of the United States. Since Senator Obama’s birth was reportedly in 1961, birth records may or may not be available, so I felt it very important to obtain the testimony of his grandmother as a first hand witness, since it is commonly known throughout Kenya, and especiallyaround the Kisamu area, that Sarah Obama was present when Barack Obama, Jr. was born in Kenya.

Accordingly, on Thursday, October 16, 2008 Reverend Kweli Shuhudia (actual name temporarily withheld to protect his life), an evangelist with our ministries traveled to Kogello and located Ms. Sarah Obama at her home, see the attached email attached as Exhibit “4″. Mr. Shuhudu is a very intelligent and educated citizen of Africa, a former teacher and respected evangelist throughout Africa. Mr. Shuhudia acts as our official translator when we are in Africa, and is fluent in both Swahili and English. Mr. Shahudu met and interviewed Ms. Sarah Obama at length on October 16th during which interview, he called me on my mobile number, see my phone record attached as Exhibit “6″. Mr Shuhudia called me first on october 16th at 10:33 a.m. and advised that hwe was with Sarah Hussein Obama and that she wanted to speak with me, but the connection was lost. He called me right back at 10:35 a.m. and he informed me that there were several hundred people present, celebrating Obama’s success. I questioned him about the format of the phone call and conversation with Ms. Obama, and then informed him that I would call him right back, so it would not cost him international charges for the call. I called him back at 10:40 a.m. and public music and voices could be heard that were gathered around Kweli Shuhudia. I then spoke with him and requested that htey utilize the speaker phone so everyone could hear.

The speaker phone with its open microphone was utilized with Mr. Shuhdia, Mr. Vatalis Alec Ogombe the Kogelo Community chairman assisting in the translation work and Ms. Sarh Hussein, along with several hundred people including policemen present and listenin in the open conversation between the four of us for approximately 15 minutes. Mr. VO is also the step grandson of Ms. Obama and the cousin of Barack Obama. A third unknown party can be heard periodically interjecting both Swahili and English words in the public discussion and conversation between the four of us. At times, the room noise from other peoples’ voices makes some of the swahili difficult to hear, and towards the end of the conversation several men’s voices are heard that are not identified. As I talked to and question Ms. Obama publicly over the open microphone of Mr. S’s speaker phone, they would translate what I said to her in Swahili publicly, and then they would translate her Swahili responses to me publicly in English. Ms. Obama can fluently speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write. In the ensuing public conversation, I asked Ms. Obama specifically, “Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya?” this was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied, “Yes! Yes she was! She was present when Obama was born.” Though, some few younger relatives, including Mr. Ogombe, have obviously been versed to counter such facts with the common purported information from the American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mr. Ogombe attempted to counter Sarah Obama’ clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Barack Obama in Kenya, I asked Mr. Ogombe, how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but Ogombe would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that, “No, No, No, He was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was in deed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A transcript of this taped public interview is attached as Exhibit “6″. Mr. Shuhudia took photographs during the open conversations and interview with Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama, which photos will be forthcoming.

Becase of the seriousness of the political situation and the impact of such on a United States Presidential election, and because of the factual reality of tremendous violence in kenya towards Christians, especially in the immediate area of Kisumu, where both Sarah Hussein Obama and Rev. Kweli Shuhudia live, it is requested that all reasonable and legal steps be taken to secure Rev. Kweli Shuhudia’s identity to the Federal Court alone, in order to protect his life and safety for being willing to provide this very important assistance in gathering this testimony and evidence to be used in any Federal litigation.

The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge before God Almighty, whom I am and whom I serve.

I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the foregoing is true and correct.

by the grace of God alone,

Ron McRae Residing Bishop Continental Presbytery of Africa Anabaptists Churches of N. America


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This affidavit has a lot on interesting info. However here is the relavant line:

Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States.

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1 posted on 11/29/2008 7:48:00 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

bump!


2 posted on 11/29/2008 7:49:42 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: ckilmer

bump


3 posted on 11/29/2008 7:50:14 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: ckilmer

We can all expect this to be national top story news tomorrow. /s


4 posted on 11/29/2008 7:53:47 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: ckilmer

And another bump.


5 posted on 11/29/2008 7:54:58 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: ckilmer

bttt


6 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:15 PM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: Jet Jaguar

bumpdity bump


7 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:20 PM PST by mia
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To: Jet Jaguar

The connection to Odinga and campaign contributions are just as troubling. The same people who donated to him surely donated to Obamanazi.


8 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:45 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: ckilmer

Boom chaka laka!


9 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:51 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: ckilmer

Come to think of it, so what if he were born in Kenya? The Constitution is routinely violated and abrogated by everyone these days, who cares if there’s an obsolete provision, written by white slave owners, about natural born citizenship in there somewhere? It’s no big deal, none of the rest is.


10 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:57 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: ckilmer

Thanks bump.


11 posted on 11/29/2008 7:56:16 PM PST by SouthTexas (Remember, it took a Jimmy Carter to bring us a Ronald Reagan!)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

12 posted on 11/29/2008 7:56:48 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: ckilmer

Well saying that it common knowledge, and actually being there for the birth are two different things. Doesn’t matter what the truth is, Obama will be President and the Congress will pass some exemption for him.


13 posted on 11/29/2008 7:59:18 PM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No.)
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To: ckilmer

The left will say: She’s old and confused and doesn’t remember which Obama was born in Kenya....


14 posted on 11/29/2008 7:59:49 PM PST by freebilly
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“...Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that she
was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya...”


15 posted on 11/29/2008 8:00:33 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: ckilmer

bookmark


16 posted on 11/29/2008 8:01:50 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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Well saying that it common knowledge, and actually being there for the birth are two different things. Doesn’t matter what the truth is, Obama will be President and the Congress will pass some exemption for him.

.................

Here is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
17 posted on 11/29/2008 8:01:51 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: coloradan
I am hoping that you forgot the </sarcasm

Otherwise, what are you doing here so ignorant of this country.

We are a country of laws of which the US CONSTITUTION is the highest level. The US Supreme Court only function is to determine if a law passed by congress is CONSTITUTIONAL or not.

When they rule otherwise, and they do a lot, they are in violation of their oaths.

18 posted on 11/29/2008 8:02:38 PM PST by BillT (Socialism = Equal Poverty for ALL)
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To: ckilmer

bookmarked for later.


19 posted on 11/29/2008 8:02:50 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: ckilmer

Why does it say Feb 2010 at the end?


20 posted on 11/29/2008 8:02:51 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: ckilmer

ping!


21 posted on 11/29/2008 8:03:53 PM PST by Op-Head
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To: MississippiMan

Amen. Boom chaka laka, brother.


22 posted on 11/29/2008 8:04:00 PM PST by GBA
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To: ckilmer

Forward this on to National Review Online!


23 posted on 11/29/2008 8:04:37 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Excuse my dumbness. I see why it says that. I got all excited. lease forgive.


24 posted on 11/29/2008 8:04:44 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: ckilmer

Thank you.


25 posted on 11/29/2008 8:08:28 PM PST by monkeycard (There's no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: freebilly
I understand attempts to discredit him, but we are all missing the point.

Obama and his money men bought the election.

For the first time, the Office of President of the United States was purchased.

I saw the media fall in line. I thought their support was ideological, but I was wrong.

It was the money.

I doubt we can recover.

26 posted on 11/29/2008 8:08:29 PM PST by highpockets
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To: ckilmer

Sudan politicians claim stake in Obama heritage
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By Andrew Heavens

KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Sudanese politicians claimed Barack Obama as one of their own on Saturday as they belatedly celebrated his election as U.S. president, hailing his family roots in their country.

Much has been made of Obama’s father’s origins in Kenya. But he acknowledged his distant Sudanese roots in his autobiography ‘Dreams From My Father’.

“His father came from the Luo (tribe), who are from the Nile. The Luo originally moved from Sudan to Kenya,” said Yasir Arman, a senior member of the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement, former southern rebels who are now in a coalition government with the north.

Hundreds of SPLM supporters crammed into their headquarters for a belated party marking Obama’s victory.

Many held up banners marked ‘New Sudan Yes We Can’ - a message that merged an SPLM slogan with Obama’s rallying cry.

Arman said members were inspired by Obama’s election as the United States’ first black president.

“It is giving a message to our society that Sudan can do the same, that Sudan can recognize its own diversity,” he said.

“We hope he will be able to give more attention to all of Africa, not just Sudan.”

The United States has had a troubled relationship with Sudan’s Khartoum-based government. It has imposed trade sanctions on Khartoum, included it on its list of state sponsors of terrorism, and accused northern troops and militias of committing genocide in the Darfur conflict.

The south has been exempted from most of the sanctions.

The SPLM fought the north for more than 20 years in a conflict that pitted the Islamist Khartoum government against mainly Christian and animist rebels. The war ended with a 2005 peace agreement.

(Editing by Angus MacSwan)

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE4AS2F120081129


27 posted on 11/29/2008 8:09:46 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador said yes.

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. Further, here is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.

In any case the supreme court--at Justice Thomas instigation-- is taking up the issue Dec 5
28 posted on 11/29/2008 8:11:33 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
I am as supportive of Obama being exposed as anyone else, but come on team conservative. We have got to get our act together and make sure all i’s are dotted, and t’s crossed.

This kind of rant about the Muslim stuff is unacceptable in an affidavit. That, as appalling as it is, is NOT a crime nor the subject of this case. Further, it will serve to add credence that this case is submitted by a bunch of crackpot extremist right wingers.

Stick to the facts.

One other defect I see in this is that 2 exhibits are marked ‘6’. This is sloppy and again makes this case look like its amateurish and anything but serious. Let's use some of those funds Berg collected from supporters on an editor for this kind of statement, instead of a 3rd grader.

I hate to be harsh, I sincerely want to win. I don't want the MSM to pick it up and focus on the sideshow of defects and irrelevant rants within the case while continuing to ignore the salient points (of which there appears to be no answer).

Get it together, and take the fight to them.

29 posted on 11/29/2008 8:13:46 PM PST by AZGunSlinger
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To: LucyT

Ping and my blood ran cold.


31 posted on 11/29/2008 8:15:35 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: ckilmer
His religious 'affiliation' (I don't think he actually believes in or fears God) is not the issue. His actual birth and citizenship by natural birth is the issue.

Barack Obama can rot in Hell claiming to be a Muslim or a christian ... that is between mister Obama and God. BUT his fraudulent claim of US citizenship after giving up his British citizenship, etc. IS my damned business because he is trying to obtain the job of president of MY REPUBLIC and MY CONSTITUTION defines the simple eligibility requirements which he has yet to provide.

I, as one of We The People, demand this bastard produce the proof that he is eligible and not merely forging his way as an affirmative action candidate. I've written to the Supreme Court and am in the process of demanding that MY ELECTED Senate and House Representatives act on the behalf of me as a We The People to assure this lying prick from Chicago criminal politics produce absolute proof of his eligibility.

32 posted on 11/29/2008 8:17:01 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: ckilmer

Honestly, I’ve seen your post 100 times. The bottom line is that none of those conversations are under oath therfore not of use in a legal proceeding. Although they are interesting, they prove nothing.


33 posted on 11/29/2008 8:17:11 PM PST by Doug TX
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To: ckilmer

"Barack Obama with his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, in Africa in 2004. Courtesy of the Obama family" - Chicgo Suntimes, published 8/16/06.

The real Madelyn Dunham (with Stanley Dunham and Barry) below:


34 posted on 11/29/2008 8:17:45 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: ckilmer

Some brave people need to reveal the truth and stop this insanity. I pray that with God’s help it will happen.


35 posted on 11/29/2008 8:20:33 PM PST by RDTF (BO smells and eventually people do what's necessary to avoid it)
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To: Deepest End
"Barack Obama with his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, in Africa in 2004. Courtesy of the Obama family" - Chicgo Suntimes, published 8/16/06.

So, how old was Barry O in this picture with his paternal grandmother? I don't think it could possibly have been just four years ago.
36 posted on 11/29/2008 8:21:44 PM PST by aruanan
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To: ckilmer

Obama’s response to Philip Berg’s Writ of Certiorari is due December 1st. I can just imagine the type of response Obama’s defense team will give.


37 posted on 11/29/2008 8:21:50 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: ckilmer

And still what do we hear from so-called reporters in the US? Crickets chirping. So much information is out there. Yet the vast majority of The Sheeple know nothing about the BC issue. Some that know don’t care. They know nothing of the Constitution, thanks to the teacher’s unions poisoning the minds of children for decades.

Just how many web news articles does it take before someone in the MSM does even one soft ball story on this for The Sheeple to read or hear about? There are hundreds of articles, yet the MSM, the President, all Gov’t officials, and many others remain silent on this issue.

They are petrified of what crisis will erupt if the truth is known and the rule of law is upheld.

Is there ONE Supreme Court Judge who will stand up for America? Will one of them say “damn the consequences and full speed ahead” to uphold the Constitution?


38 posted on 11/29/2008 8:22:18 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built.." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: highpockets
For the first time, the Office of President of the United States was purchased.

It hasn't been purchased yet. Electors have yet to vote, that vote has yet to be certified, and the Oath Of Office has yet to be taken. There are Constitutional provisions for a President-Elect who fails to qualify. We must see to it, that every avenue is pursued, to hold Barack Obama to account. Should he provide incontrovertible evidence that he is indeed qualified, we should stand down on this issue, but not until then.

39 posted on 11/29/2008 8:22:32 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Doug TX

The bishop’s affidavit is under oath. But it proves nothing. Nor do the statements of the grandmother or the siblings. Its just the pattern.


40 posted on 11/29/2008 8:23:15 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer

saved


41 posted on 11/29/2008 8:27:00 PM PST by gunnyg
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To: aruanan
The point is the caption for the first photo referencing the African Granny Dunham, not the high school photo. Not implying anything, just found it amusing how little the Chicago Suntimes knows about That One and his family.
42 posted on 11/29/2008 8:28:09 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Deepest End

Then again, his whole life is so shrouded in such a fog of obfuscation, secrecy and confusion, who knows anything?


43 posted on 11/29/2008 8:30:28 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: ckilmer; autumnraine; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; ...
Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States.

Thank you autumnraine.

Ping.

44 posted on 11/29/2008 8:31:10 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: AZGunSlinger

In a lawsuit anything that can be used for the purpose of impeaching the credibility (or veracity) of a witness is admissable. It might be legally but not logically relevant. His religion is not relevant to Article 2, but he has made it clear he’s a Christian.
So here’s a Holy Man, a bishop, sworn, sayingt he’s a fuzzy muzzie. It’s something like trying to pass off a birth certificate as genuine, then saying, `No good? Oh never mind—here’s a better one. No? OK, try this one.
I can see your point but enquiring minds might want to know ... work with us a little bit.


45 posted on 11/29/2008 8:31:15 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: LucyT

Many thanks, LucyT

Ping.


47 posted on 11/29/2008 8:43:27 PM PST by Iowan
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To: ckilmer

To all of you. Do you really not see that this is the kind of thing that gives those of us on the right absolutely NO credibility? The state of Hawaii has issued the authentication of Obama’s Hawaiian birth. Obama has fulfilled the eligibility requirements in the eyes of the law. Period. Everyone that I talk to says that this just goes to show how fractured and dysfunctional our side has become. Get grounded. Get real. And get ready for the next election by being smart sound and logical. A house divided will fall.


48 posted on 11/29/2008 8:45:51 PM PST by Myrrh123
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To: apocalypto

ping for reference


49 posted on 11/29/2008 8:47:56 PM PST by ArmyTeach (You have a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it...)
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To: VigilantAmerican

ping to even more!


50 posted on 11/29/2008 8:50:49 PM PST by jacquej
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