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Senate Dems look to GOP moderates for help [McCain, RINOs]
UPI ^ | 2008-12-01

Posted on 12/01/2008 12:59:28 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: Nonstatist

80 % of the public is against card check. If Susan Collins et al vote for that, they ought to be ostracized fully by the RNC , Chamber of Commerce, every Rebublican interest group, etc (not that Id be willing to take bets, though)


21 posted on 12/01/2008 1:51:55 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: rabscuttle385
Butbutbutbutbut why didn't the 'Rats vote for McCain?!
22 posted on 12/01/2008 2:08:52 PM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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To: rabscuttle385
Pretty much. The Rats have successfully emasculated the Republican Party.

I disagree, the Republicans have pretty much emasculated themselves.

24 posted on 12/01/2008 2:22:21 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: stockpirate

I think the RINO’s would enjoy at least the next two years as real dims. If they won’t be even a “loyal opposition” at minimum, then they should get the hell out of the party so a real fight, of some kind, can be assembled.


25 posted on 12/01/2008 2:22:45 PM PST by Dean Wormer (Hey 0, next time you're in Indy, you're invited over for some pork chops)
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To: griswold3
Like I tried to tell folks before the GOP nomination.....


26 posted on 12/01/2008 2:26:19 PM PST by OB1kNOb (I for one will NOT welcome our new Marxist overlords.)
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To: tennmountainman

Norm Coleman, while not full-fledged RINO material, is in that rotating group.

My fear is that if he wins re-election, he’ll come out more determined than ever to be “bi-partisan” and to “work across the aisle”.


27 posted on 12/01/2008 2:33:56 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: rabscuttle385
These Republican "moderates" are being played like fiddles. Do they not understand that their party has lost two consecutive elections by moving to that mythical "center?" Once again, Dems won on CONSERVATIVE issues: tax cuts, pro-gun, didn't mention abortion, gay marriage, or border security and the Stupid Party didn't even bring it up.

Naw, these clowns only care about yakking it up with Rats at the D.C. cocktail parties. Time for conservatives to take over the Constitution Party.

28 posted on 12/01/2008 2:40:42 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Nonstatist
If Susan Collins et al vote for that

Here's the problem - If Collins opposes it, she knows the Democrats will run someone against her when she's up for re-election. Doesn't matter how many times she has sided with Democrats, and I'm sure she's going to whine and say "but...but...I was bipartisan and worked with Dems" but the Dems don't care about that crap. Just like they targeted Lincoln Chaffee they're going to target the RINOs. And conservatives won't be around to help them.

Even FDR mocked me-too Republicans who sat there sniveling for Democrat's affection.

29 posted on 12/01/2008 2:46:05 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Loupgarou

Specter was the only Repubican to support the bill last time it was brought up. Voinovich voted against it.

It also remains to be seen whether or not Democrats from anti-union, right-to-work states will vote to support it this time. Before they could vote in favor of it to please the unions, because they knew it would be filibustered/vetoed by Bush. I’m not sure if Mary Landreu, Kay Hagan, Ben Nelson, & Tim Johnson will vote to support card check.


30 posted on 12/01/2008 3:37:00 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: rabscuttle385

Actually, there are probably a dozen “Republican” senators that will vote Democrat much of the time on roll calls, including people once considerec conservatives, like Voinovich of OH and Grassley of IA.


31 posted on 12/01/2008 3:46:22 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: Nonstatist

Haven’t you heard? The CofC went liberal with their “Bill” in 1993 and remains so.


32 posted on 12/01/2008 3:49:09 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: ABQHispConservative

The last Republican to lose a Senate primary was the unusual conservative Bob Smith of NH, who endorsed John F. Kerry in 2004.

Before that it was Jacob K. Javits, wasn’t it, in 1980?

Republican voters are too timid to retire liberals in the primaries.


33 posted on 12/01/2008 3:51:09 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: ontap

Yes, sometimes McPain makes Tom Dewey look like a nice guy!


34 posted on 12/01/2008 3:52:04 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: rabscuttle385

This MN woman senator must be the least known person in the entire body. At one time HHH and Gene McCarthy were among the best known of all senators. MN voters have been looking for socialist programs for two generations and are still looking ... in vain of course.


35 posted on 12/01/2008 3:54:41 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: MplsSteve

Yea, before it’s over, we are going to wish we had Gordon Smith back! A real OR backbone!


36 posted on 12/01/2008 3:55:59 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ol’ John and Arlen both deserve new terms, Right?

Good God, the GoP really is for all intents and purposes dead.


37 posted on 12/01/2008 4:59:35 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: griswold3
we will cross this river when we get to it.....no use worrying about what some jerk Senators will do....for that matter, we might be surprised that some rat Senators don't go along with the zero....

lets win the Georgia and Minn Senate races first....worry later.....

38 posted on 12/01/2008 6:04:30 PM PST by cherry
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
If Collins opposes it, she knows the Democrats will run someone against her when she's up for re-election.

80 % of the general public is still 60 % of Maine. Almost nobody who's voted for her will mind if she votes against it. OTOH, she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer..

OTOH again, I doubt Nelson (Dem) of Nebraska will go for this. As for the others, I can't say I know for sure, but small business lobbies will go ballistic if this thing passes.

39 posted on 12/01/2008 6:57:26 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: ABQHispConservative
I’m curious to see how far the rino/moderates will go>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I want them to go ALL the way.

The sooner they will be "Palinized."

40 posted on 12/01/2008 8:30:11 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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