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Constitution? What Constitution?
News Blaze ^ | December 1, 2008 | Colonel Bob Pappas, USMC, Retired

Posted on 12/01/2008 1:00:37 PM PST by Red Steel

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To: Honor above all

I have been an avid student of history my entire life (my degree is in History, as well). I know full well what a civil war is about, what it entails, and the sacrifices and tragedies of such a thing. Hence, that is why I said I feared we might be heading toward one.

I do not want a civil war. I want the government to act responsibly vis-a-vis the U.S. Constitution, and not “invent” new powers for itself or “re-interpet” or “re-define” those parts of the Constitution the government may dislike or find to be too restrictive of its authority. HOWEVER, the People retain the right to resist an oppressive or tyrannical or out-of-control government, employing whatever means necessary to accomplish that resistance. Remember, as Patrick Henry said:

“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”

or, James Madison:

“Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.”

or, Alexis de Tocqueville:

“A man’s admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for those around him.”


21 posted on 12/01/2008 2:13:28 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Red Steel
What he did present was a certified Certificate of Live Birth

No, he, or someone in The Organization presented a Certification of Live Birth. A computer generated extract of the information from the real Certificate of Live Birth, aka long form birth certificate.

22 posted on 12/01/2008 2:35:06 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ought-six
“Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.”

Two out of three ain't bad, and Obama, Pelosi, and Frankenfienstien will be working on the third, come January 6th, for signature shortly after January 20th.

23 posted on 12/01/2008 2:48:41 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ought-six

I love what Mr. Madison said. Had to tweak it just a bit to become my new tag line.

Awesome! And so topical.


24 posted on 12/01/2008 2:50:05 PM PST by upchuck (Oppressors can tyrannize only by achieving a standing army, a slaved press, and a disarmed populace.)
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To: Publius
In modern terms, it would read, "Do you support the President, the Congress and the people, who have spoken and decided by an election? Or do you support the Supreme Court and the Constitution?"

That assumes the Court would not be on the same side as the President, the Congress, and some fraction of the people (less than the 52.8% who voted for The One, because he is The One.)

My oath is to the Constitution, not any of those entities created by it.

25 posted on 12/01/2008 3:02:59 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Publius

1649 vs 1861 - the question is still the same. Will we live free with the government answerable to the people OR will we be allowed to have rights at the whim of the elected. It is NOT a question of supporting the elected; they are beholden to us, not the reverse.

As far as whether it will be an English Civil War or a Second War Between The States is still open and can be avoided only by obedience to the Constitution - AS WRITTEN, NOT INTERPRETED.


26 posted on 12/01/2008 6:26:12 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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