Posted on 12/01/2008 2:43:49 PM PST by fanfan
The difference between right and wrong. :-)
When hasn’t a minority government had it’s leader as the Prime Minister?
These 3 leftist parties will run the Canadian government without even a minority. It will fall of course but after much damage to the economy as Canada will have lost it’s history of having a stable government system, not to mention what they will do through Parliament to move Canada to the left. Canadians said NO to this just 6 weeks ago.
If there is a, no confidence vote there needs to be another election as Canadians did not vote for a coalition of the left with a Quebec separatist party to be their government.
Oh certainly. The other party whips are going to have their work cut out for them making sure that the Conservatives don’t pull a fast one and have more MPs on-hand for a vote than the coalition does, thus forcing an election. And they’ll have to pray for consensus among the party leaders. But the longer this lasts, the worse things will look for Harper personally because he’s a legendary control freak. If thing settle into a workable atmosphere, he may join Preston on the lecture circuit.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/01/coalition-talks.html#socialcomments
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It's not just Canada. Look at California and the Libs' reaction to the passage of Prop 8.
Libs are the same everywhere. They just can't stand democracy and the will of the people.
Interesting.
What are your thoughts on Harper in general? Good guy? Effective leader? Solid conservative?
Actually, on straight numbers, more Canadians said Yes to this than to the Conservatives. The only difference is that the Alliance bought-out it’s political rival for the right-leaning vote by way of an unprincipled Willcocks.
And as far as the damage to the economy is concerned, you obviously haven’t been around when Flaherty runs anything.
Truhfully? Control freak. Wouldn’t trust him in charge of the local dog pound. Then again, I’m a Red Tory so I’m not his natural constituency
Red tory is what exactly?
What is Harper’s big base of support?
I don’t know much about him except that he and his conservative government was re-elected, and I always thought Canada was pretty liberal.
Fiscally conservative, socially liberal. That’s actually the demographic that both the Liberals and the present Conservatives covet most as they represent the wishes of the largest majority of Canadians.
However, Brian Mulroney made the Progressive Conservative party particularly toxic after the whole “Irish Eyes” fiasco and the Liberals made the astute move of positioning themselves as the party of the centre. Peter McKay did the weak thing and sold the PC Party out to the Alliance Party, thus depriving Canadian voter of an alternative on the conservative side of the political spectrum.
Just as an addendum, Canada is pretty liberal by comparison to the States. Our Conservatives are by-and-large to the left of the Democrats
I've found that to be a ludicrous, impossible and rankly hypocritical combination. You cannot be the latter and be the former at the same time. To support the latter means to be supportive of highly expensive government programs. Being a Social Lib is not cheap by any means. Conversely, as we've seen all around, you can be a Social Conservative and Fiscal Liberal (all the while claiming to be a Fis Con). Spending is an epidemic worse than cancer.
We know, that’s why we’re trying to urge on our Canadian friends to discard the profound damage the Nazi/Stalinist Trudeau inflicted upon the Great White North and move it back to saneland again. :-)
Wrong, the CPC has more seats than the Liberals and the NDP combined. The Bloc ran only in Quebec on what was best for Quebec not Canada. Canadians clearly did not want the Liberals to form the government and never have wanted the NDP to do so either. Canadians should get the minority CPC government they voted for, period.
“I’ve found that to be a ludicrous, impossible and rankly hypocritical combination.”
Say what you will, but it worked just fine for about 7 decades. And we aren’t talking absolutes of action or opinion. Anybody who says he acts absolutely one way or another in every situation is either lying, demented or both.
Uh huh! Seems to me that saneland seems to be trying to be more like Canucks. Go figure! There’s hope for the lost colony yet! ;)
Poppycock.......spoken like a true red tory. You must have missed the voting at the recent CPC convention by the delegates it was very conservative including socially conservative. I would also hazard a guess you don't live in Western Canada where the conservative power base is. Your statement is true of the majority of so called conservatives in Ontario and east....red tories are just another label for liberals, ask any conservative. The CPC still can't get more votes in Ontario and east than any other party. Ah it just occurred to me, you may not consider Western Canada as really part of Canada ....we are just the colonies to red's out east.
Politically, the BQ is in the same range as the Liberals when you exclude the separation issue. And the PQ ran third in a 3-party race last time out for a reason. The children of the Quiet Revolution have become their parents and their children are looking for something a little more realistic politically than what the PQ offers. That’s why the ADQ did as well as they did last time out (though I doubt they’ll repeat this time around).
Give the voters of the conservative persuasion a viable option from the current Conservative Party and I think you’ll find that things aren’t nearly so cut-and-dried as you’d like to believe.
I disagree that it has “worked”, since it is a contradiction in terms. I also very rarely work or toil in shades of gray, as that’s a routine tactic used by the left to diminish and smear often crystal-clear delineations of right and wrong.
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