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To: DieHard the Hunter
Ummmm... yeah it is. It is the same thing. And it is ugly and unbecoming of Christians. I think we ought to leave it to God to decide who is/isn't "Christian" and focus instead on working out our own Salvation with trembling and fear.

It is up to God to judge our hearts. But we have to settle our theological disputes here on earth. That was the motivation behind the Nicene Creed. Are we going to throw that away? Are we going to be silent while heresies pass themselves off as Christian? Of course not.

38 posted on 12/03/2008 9:53:34 AM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: Jibaholic

>>But we have to settle our theological disputes here on earth. That was the motivation behind the Nicene Creed. <<

Um, where is it in the Nicene Creed that we have to insult and berate those that do not share our doctrinal beliefs?

I recite the Creed every Sunday. I remember the words “I believe....” not “You must believe....’

Guide and teach not slash and burn.


45 posted on 12/03/2008 9:57:12 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Jibaholic

> That was the motivation behind the Nicene Creed. Are we going to throw that away? Are we going to be silent while heresies pass themselves off as Christian? Of course not.

There be dragons there, in that line of reasoning.

There are some Christian denominations that believe the Nicene Creed to be a heresy and the beginning of Apostasy for the “true” Christian faith. And they believe that they can prove it, every bit as much as you believe you can prove your viewpoint, from the Bible.

That kind of back-and-forth sniping is surely not the best way for Christians to behave in these, the Last Days? Enemies on all sides — real heresies like islam and marxism and atheism and all manner of satan worship — and like typical Christians we’re going to argue over who is more Christian than who?

What shameful bloody nonsense! “Will I find the Faith on the Earth?” becomes a very valid question. Who knows?


63 posted on 12/03/2008 10:12:24 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Jibaholic

And who gave you the right to make the Nicean Creed the definition of what it means to be a Christian.
The Nicean Creed is essentially the restatement of belief in God using the concepts of Neoplatonic realism. Is Neoplatonic realism, concepts not found in the Bible, that important?


69 posted on 12/03/2008 10:21:49 AM PST by broncobilly
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To: Jibaholic
It is up to God to judge our hearts. But we have to settle our theological disputes here on earth. That was the motivation behind the Nicene Creed. Are we going to throw that away? Are we going to be silent while heresies pass themselves off as Christian? Of course not.

Please explain to me why men need to settle Theological disputes and not God.

Please explain to me how men, without God's assistance settle these disputes.

Last question is someone who believes in Jesus, but has a diff rent understanding than you do "passing themselves off" or do they really believe?
273 posted on 12/03/2008 1:33:49 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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