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German troops in Afghanistan drank more than 1.8 million pints of beer last year
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 17 Nov 2008

Posted on 12/03/2008 3:38:51 PM PST by Joiseydude

Almost 70,000 litres of wine and seat, a German sparkling wine, was also shipped to the soldiers, the defence ministry figures showed.

The figures imply that the 3,600 German troops in Afghanistan as part of Nato's ISA operation are each drinking around 490 pints or beer as well as 128 normal measures of wine.

The revelations have provided ammunition to critics of Germany's role in the Afghan mission.

Some claim that German troops spend too much time in the relatively safe areas in the north of the country.

British soldiers are only allowed to drink moderate amounts of alcohol while US soldiers are banned from consuming it completely.

The German defence ministry defended their troops, saying that consumption was well within the allowed limit, The Guardian newspaper reported.

Alcohol consumption among German soldiers is expected to increase as the country increases the number of its troops engaged in operations in Afghanistan by a further 900.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; beer; germantroops; nato
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1 posted on 12/03/2008 3:38:51 PM PST by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude
US soldiers are banned from consuming it completely.

No booze, no porn - what were we fighting for?

2 posted on 12/03/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Joiseydude; GOP_Raider

“German defence ministry defended their troops, saying that consumption was well within the allowed limit”

1.8 million liters and how many troops?

LOL


3 posted on 12/03/2008 3:41:45 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: Joiseydude

Prost! ... Trinksprüche!


4 posted on 12/03/2008 3:42:11 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: dynachrome

liters = pints. oops.


5 posted on 12/03/2008 3:42:13 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: Old Sarge

>>what were we fighting for?

Cigars! Man, Ceeegaahs!

Oops, Oh, never mind.


6 posted on 12/03/2008 3:43:10 PM PST by swarthyguy (*Bush Promised us Osama, instead we're getting Obama*)
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To: Joiseydude

I know nuthink! I see nuthink!!!

7 posted on 12/03/2008 3:43:47 PM PST by gridlock (Global Warming is like The Homeless. It will disappear the moment a Democrat is in the White House.)
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To: Joiseydude
Germans think beer is food.

BTW, for those with wheat intolerance, barley and rye have the same type of gluten that causes the problem so no beer either ~

8 posted on 12/03/2008 3:44:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Joiseydude

It would not surprise me that in true spirit of coalition interoperability, the Germans are taking one (or several) for their U.S. counterparts who of course would never violate General Order 1 in CENTCOM and drink any alcohol. /eye roll


9 posted on 12/03/2008 3:48:20 PM PST by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: Joiseydude

British pints or American?


10 posted on 12/03/2008 3:48:37 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: Joiseydude

With the Guard in the Vietnam era, our Supply and Transport Company (of an Infantry Support Battalion) left for Annual Training with a forty foot transport trailer loaded to the roof with cases of assorted brands of Barley Pop.

We set up our NCO club and some of the other companies in our battallion with less “logistical foresight” helped consume the strategic reserves.

We ran out and had to go for resupply with four days left to endure of the summer of ‘73.


11 posted on 12/03/2008 3:49:58 PM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: muawiyah

>>Germans think beer is food.

Beer IS food. Liquid bread.


12 posted on 12/03/2008 3:51:37 PM PST by swarthyguy (*Bush Promised us Osama, instead we're getting Obama*)
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To: Old Sarge

Sarge, if you believe our boys don’t spend a little cash buying booze from the Germans, we were in a different Army.


13 posted on 12/03/2008 3:52:15 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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To: swarthyguy

Ah, yes, those faux-Cubans that were availabel all over theater; camel-pies rolled in date palms.

I preferred my pipe or the hookas.


14 posted on 12/03/2008 3:54:02 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Joiseydude

MEIN GOTT!!!!


15 posted on 12/03/2008 3:54:16 PM PST by usmcobra (Go ask Obama for your change, and don't bug me!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!


16 posted on 12/03/2008 3:54:21 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Joiseydude
Well I'm sure even the left can finally agree that the war is going good for some people. Photobucket
17 posted on 12/03/2008 3:55:25 PM PST by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: muawiyah

The German Supreme Court ruled a few years back, it is illegal to prohibit bier to workers at “brotzeit” (morning snack) or at lunch.


18 posted on 12/03/2008 3:57:02 PM PST by patton (Help - My antivirus software keeps trying to delete Vista as malicious code!)
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To: Joiseydude

>>3,600 German troops in Afghanistan as part of Nato’s ISA operation are each drinking around 490 pints or beer

Sounds like a lot but assuming a TourofDuty of a year and a 4 months, that’s approximately one pint a day.


19 posted on 12/03/2008 3:57:02 PM PST by swarthyguy (*Bush Promised us Osama, instead we're getting Obama*)
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To: Joiseydude
US soldiers are banned from consuming it completely

U.S. soldiers must leave a small amount in each glass.

20 posted on 12/03/2008 3:57:47 PM PST by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: The Paucity of Hope)
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To: gridlock

FOTFLMAO!


21 posted on 12/03/2008 3:58:56 PM PST by dancusa (For liberals there is no end to their rights and no beginning to their responsibilities.)
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To: Joiseydude

And you can bet that bier ain’t Bud or Lite.


22 posted on 12/03/2008 4:01:26 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Joiseydude

As I sit here and tip back a Spaten Optimator, I wish I had joined the German military! Beides not allowing our guys to drink in countries that it is “forbidden” in, we have 18 year olds told they can kill or be responsible for multi million dollar equipment, but cannot have a damn beer.

But dont get me started...


23 posted on 12/03/2008 4:05:08 PM PST by USAFJeeper
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To: rzeznikj at stout; GOP_Raider; Rodney King; Tainan; Chasaway; SquirrelKing; dynachrome; ...

Beer Ping!

A low to medium ping list aimed at all of us who, well, love our beer...

FReepmail rzeznikj at stout or GOP_Raider to be added or struck from the list...

24 posted on 12/03/2008 4:05:34 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Have you risen above your own public education today?)
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To: Joiseydude

Ah bier, Jah!

25 posted on 12/03/2008 4:08:10 PM PST by dancusa (For liberals there is no end to their rights and no beginning to their responsibilities.)
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To: Joiseydude

Good thing Afghanistan’s a Muslim country. Imagine how drunk the Bundeswehr guys would be if it weren’t.

“Allah akbar!”
“O’zapft is!”


26 posted on 12/03/2008 4:08:42 PM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: muawiyah

Good beer is food, wouldn’t you agree? (let’s leave out thin, watery “lite” fizzy waters of course); and wine has long been known to have beneficial aspects particularly red wines like cabs and burgundies..


27 posted on 12/03/2008 4:10:10 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: patton
Sitting on the border across from a Soviet guard tower we watched as they hoisted up a big back of what seemed to be bottles.

The guys were up there several days. They tossed empty vodka bottles out onto the minefields at night.

We never saw a German crew serve that site but you can imagine them doing the same with Eastie fliptops.

28 posted on 12/03/2008 4:10:40 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: patton

Is that what it was? I heard it was a union contract, at least I was surprised to see workers enjoying their hefes at the canteen. Shows ya how screwy America has become.


29 posted on 12/03/2008 4:12:30 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Joiseydude
Almost 70,000 litres of wine and seat, a German sparkling wine,

I believe they mean "Sekt" not "Seat"


30 posted on 12/03/2008 4:13:36 PM PST by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: USAFJeeper

I remember the first time I was in a joint trainex with JDF in the late ‘80’s. Our bivouac area was just a few hundred meters from the Japanese and we could smell their chow being cooked in huge “field” woks - it smelled delicious.

Anyhwho, we wondered over to find the feast that was being prepared along with the big buckets of iced-down Sapporo being served. At that very moment, I knew there was at least one DOD policy that was completely insane. Then, I went back to my hooch and “enjoyed” my MRE and bug juice. Good times. Good times.


31 posted on 12/03/2008 4:14:08 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey

bttt


32 posted on 12/03/2008 4:17:10 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: swarthyguy

What is the old German saying: “Bread maybe the staff of life, but beer is life itself.”

These are not their grandfather’s German soldiers.


33 posted on 12/03/2008 4:22:23 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: USAFJeeper
But dont get me started...

You go ahead and get started, I'll join in. GO#1 id the most flagrant excuse for a lack of leadership that I've ever seen!

34 posted on 12/03/2008 4:23:30 PM PST by Sarajevo (I hear moon crickets...........chirping.)
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To: Big_Monkey

No kidding! I am constantly amazed at how ridiculous some of those policies are on alcohol. Best TDY ever, I was TDY to Germany in October of 1991, I missed Oktoberfest but made the wine probes.

When I was an airman I actually had a First Sergeant bringing kegs to me in the dorm to “finish off” after squadron parties. Beer machines in the dorms... Ah the good old days!

I see you are in Georgia, I moved to Warner Robins area after Katrina blew me out of New Orleans!


35 posted on 12/03/2008 4:24:07 PM PST by USAFJeeper
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Right, a pint a day? that’s it? man, that barely washes down the Breakfast Wurst.


36 posted on 12/03/2008 4:26:54 PM PST by swarthyguy (*Bush Promised us Osama, instead we're getting Obama*)
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To: Freedom4US
Sorry, it's poisonous. I search out the "least poisonous" substances (much like the German scientists who searched for the "least poisonous" olive oil and discovered it at Aldis of all places).

En zo, Frankenwein is very good ~ warm summer day, ride a bike out in the country among the asparagras fields, and find a flat spot, then pop a top.

Of course Franconia really doesn't have many warm days, but they have good grapes.

37 posted on 12/03/2008 4:31:03 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: USAFJeeper

We stayed several weeks once in a German Kaserne where they had “beer machines” but we were on this crazy guard schedule and found it more advantageous to just stop in town. They made the beer in the basement.


38 posted on 12/03/2008 4:32:40 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Would the American translation be: “There is food value in beer. There is no beer value in food?”


39 posted on 12/03/2008 4:33:23 PM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Jacquerie

Thats about right—food=beer. Some say civilzation started with beer. I buy it.


40 posted on 12/03/2008 4:37:14 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Joiseydude
gee, i wonder how much of that ended up as p*ss?

(never mind....)

41 posted on 12/03/2008 4:38:27 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Shouldn't we form "Committees of Correspondence" thru Freepmail & V-Cards if FR is to be shut down?)
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To: Sarajevo

As a MSgt before I retired I had kids moving off base as airmen, getting in over their heads financially and you know why? Then they could get drunk off their butts in their apartment AND get DUIs driving to a friends apartment. I argued, let them walk across the damn street to the Enlisted Club instead and keep em in a more controlled environment and pump money in the club system at the same time.


42 posted on 12/03/2008 5:00:05 PM PST by USAFJeeper
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To: muawiyah

Then all foods are poisonous! We only live once after all.. “Eat right, stay fit, die anyway..” They talk funny in Franconia, btw.


43 posted on 12/03/2008 5:02:51 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: muawiyah

Well, in many ways, beer and wine are food.

Liquor could be classified as medicine.


44 posted on 12/03/2008 5:03:15 PM PST by alarm rider (Conservatives win elections, Republicans lose them...)
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To: USAFJeeper

You made too much sense.

Nannyism brooks no common sense.


45 posted on 12/03/2008 5:06:07 PM PST by swarthyguy (*Bush Promised us Osama, instead we're getting Obama*)
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To: Freedom4US

“Ish isht nichts spreche kleine beche deutsche.” ~ which, when you were dressed in Rad clothes would usually get any German NOT from Franconia to persist in asking you a question.


46 posted on 12/03/2008 5:08:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Joiseydude
The figures imply that the 3,600 German troops in Afghanistan as part of Nato's ISA operation are each drinking around 490 pints or beer as well as 128 normal measures of wine

"Wein auf Bier, das rat' ich dir. Bier auf Wein, das lass' sein."

[Loosely: "Liquor before beer, you're in the clear; beer before liquor, never been sicker."]

47 posted on 12/03/2008 5:09:45 PM PST by mikrofon (Ich bin ein Bierlieber.)
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To: mikrofon

LOL - “Wein nach Bier, das rat ich dir - Bier nach Wein, Lass es allein!”

“Win AFTER bier, ok, Bier AFTER wien, forget it.”

Sheesh. GI german gets everything backwards.


48 posted on 12/03/2008 5:46:14 PM PST by patton (Help - My antivirus software keeps trying to delete Vista as malicious code!)
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To: Joiseydude

I proudly contributed to that amount...


49 posted on 12/03/2008 6:55:34 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: USAFJeeper
Off base Stateside and the inability to blow off a little steam and have a drink in a war zone are different issues. You hit it correctly when you wrote that an 18 year old can be responsible for millions of dollars of equipment, can be told to kill, but cannot drink a beer. That sux!

As late as 1987, I was patrolling the former East German/Czech border. After 1700, the beer light came on. We were all there, weapons and all. It's an issue of leadership and responsibility.

50 posted on 12/03/2008 6:57:18 PM PST by Sarajevo (I hear moon crickets...........chirping.)
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