Skip to comments.German troops in Afghanistan drank more than 1.8 million pints of beer last year
Posted on 12/03/2008 3:38:51 PM PST by Joiseydude
Almost 70,000 litres of wine and seat, a German sparkling wine, was also shipped to the soldiers, the defence ministry figures showed.
The figures imply that the 3,600 German troops in Afghanistan as part of Nato's ISA operation are each drinking around 490 pints or beer as well as 128 normal measures of wine.
The revelations have provided ammunition to critics of Germany's role in the Afghan mission.
Some claim that German troops spend too much time in the relatively safe areas in the north of the country.
British soldiers are only allowed to drink moderate amounts of alcohol while US soldiers are banned from consuming it completely.
The German defence ministry defended their troops, saying that consumption was well within the allowed limit, The Guardian newspaper reported.
Alcohol consumption among German soldiers is expected to increase as the country increases the number of its troops engaged in operations in Afghanistan by a further 900.
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No booze, no porn - what were we fighting for?
“German defence ministry defended their troops, saying that consumption was well within the allowed limit”
1.8 million liters and how many troops?
Prost! ... Trinksprüche!
liters = pints. oops.
>>what were we fighting for?
Cigars! Man, Ceeegaahs!
Oops, Oh, never mind.
I know nuthink! I see nuthink!!!
BTW, for those with wheat intolerance, barley and rye have the same type of gluten that causes the problem so no beer either ~
It would not surprise me that in true spirit of coalition interoperability, the Germans are taking one (or several) for their U.S. counterparts who of course would never violate General Order 1 in CENTCOM and drink any alcohol. /eye roll
British pints or American?
With the Guard in the Vietnam era, our Supply and Transport Company (of an Infantry Support Battalion) left for Annual Training with a forty foot transport trailer loaded to the roof with cases of assorted brands of Barley Pop.
We set up our NCO club and some of the other companies in our battallion with less “logistical foresight” helped consume the strategic reserves.
We ran out and had to go for resupply with four days left to endure of the summer of ‘73.
>>Germans think beer is food.
Beer IS food. Liquid bread.
Sarge, if you believe our boys don’t spend a little cash buying booze from the Germans, we were in a different Army.
Ah, yes, those faux-Cubans that were availabel all over theater; camel-pies rolled in date palms.
I preferred my pipe or the hookas.
The German Supreme Court ruled a few years back, it is illegal to prohibit bier to workers at “brotzeit” (morning snack) or at lunch.
>>3,600 German troops in Afghanistan as part of Nato’s ISA operation are each drinking around 490 pints or beer
Sounds like a lot but assuming a TourofDuty of a year and a 4 months, that’s approximately one pint a day.
U.S. soldiers must leave a small amount in each glass.
And you can bet that bier ain’t Bud or Lite.
As I sit here and tip back a Spaten Optimator, I wish I had joined the German military! Beides not allowing our guys to drink in countries that it is “forbidden” in, we have 18 year olds told they can kill or be responsible for multi million dollar equipment, but cannot have a damn beer.
But dont get me started...
A low to medium ping list aimed at all of us who, well, love our beer...
FReepmail rzeznikj at stout or GOP_Raider to be added or struck from the list...
Ah bier, Jah!
Good thing Afghanistan’s a Muslim country. Imagine how drunk the Bundeswehr guys would be if it weren’t.
Good beer is food, wouldn’t you agree? (let’s leave out thin, watery “lite” fizzy waters of course); and wine has long been known to have beneficial aspects particularly red wines like cabs and burgundies..
The guys were up there several days. They tossed empty vodka bottles out onto the minefields at night.
We never saw a German crew serve that site but you can imagine them doing the same with Eastie fliptops.
Is that what it was? I heard it was a union contract, at least I was surprised to see workers enjoying their hefes at the canteen. Shows ya how screwy America has become.
I believe they mean "Sekt" not "Seat"
I remember the first time I was in a joint trainex with JDF in the late ‘80’s. Our bivouac area was just a few hundred meters from the Japanese and we could smell their chow being cooked in huge “field” woks - it smelled delicious.
Anyhwho, we wondered over to find the feast that was being prepared along with the big buckets of iced-down Sapporo being served. At that very moment, I knew there was at least one DOD policy that was completely insane. Then, I went back to my hooch and “enjoyed” my MRE and bug juice. Good times. Good times.
What is the old German saying: “Bread maybe the staff of life, but beer is life itself.”
These are not their grandfather’s German soldiers.
You go ahead and get started, I'll join in. GO#1 id the most flagrant excuse for a lack of leadership that I've ever seen!
No kidding! I am constantly amazed at how ridiculous some of those policies are on alcohol. Best TDY ever, I was TDY to Germany in October of 1991, I missed Oktoberfest but made the wine probes.
When I was an airman I actually had a First Sergeant bringing kegs to me in the dorm to “finish off” after squadron parties. Beer machines in the dorms... Ah the good old days!
I see you are in Georgia, I moved to Warner Robins area after Katrina blew me out of New Orleans!
Right, a pint a day? that’s it? man, that barely washes down the Breakfast Wurst.
En zo, Frankenwein is very good ~ warm summer day, ride a bike out in the country among the asparagras fields, and find a flat spot, then pop a top.
Of course Franconia really doesn't have many warm days, but they have good grapes.
We stayed several weeks once in a German Kaserne where they had “beer machines” but we were on this crazy guard schedule and found it more advantageous to just stop in town. They made the beer in the basement.
Would the American translation be: “There is food value in beer. There is no beer value in food?”
Thats about right—food=beer. Some say civilzation started with beer. I buy it.
As a MSgt before I retired I had kids moving off base as airmen, getting in over their heads financially and you know why? Then they could get drunk off their butts in their apartment AND get DUIs driving to a friends apartment. I argued, let them walk across the damn street to the Enlisted Club instead and keep em in a more controlled environment and pump money in the club system at the same time.
Then all foods are poisonous! We only live once after all.. “Eat right, stay fit, die anyway..” They talk funny in Franconia, btw.
Well, in many ways, beer and wine are food.
Liquor could be classified as medicine.
You made too much sense.
Nannyism brooks no common sense.
“Ish isht nichts spreche kleine beche deutsche.” ~ which, when you were dressed in Rad clothes would usually get any German NOT from Franconia to persist in asking you a question.
"Wein auf Bier, das rat' ich dir. Bier auf Wein, das lass' sein."
[Loosely: "Liquor before beer, you're in the clear; beer before liquor, never been sicker."]
LOL - “Wein nach Bier, das rat ich dir - Bier nach Wein, Lass es allein!”
“Win AFTER bier, ok, Bier AFTER wien, forget it.”
Sheesh. GI german gets everything backwards.
I proudly contributed to that amount...
As late as 1987, I was patrolling the former East German/Czech border. After 1700, the beer light came on. We were all there, weapons and all. It's an issue of leadership and responsibility.