[gleeaikin]

For trucks, Semi tractors,dump trucks and other large vehicles, I am interested in the Pickens Plan idea of wind harvesting producing compressed natural gas for use in those larger vehicles.

You ask about the oil derivatives products. Another good reason for not using up all our oil reserves. What will we make our plastics, etc from if our oil is used up in 60 years?

[mvpel]

For trucks, Semi tractors,dump trucks and other large vehicles, I am interested in the Pickens Plan idea of wind harvesting producing compressed natural gas for use in those larger vehicles.

Are you ready to put money straight into Nancy Pelosi's pocket with that project? She's a major shareholder in the company. If it was such a good idea, why do they need Nancy Pelosi to push the government to force YOU to pay $100 billion to that company in order to get it done?

[verklaring]

There is enough oil in recent discoveries in Alaska, oil shale in the Continental USA, not to mention Canada to last a lot longer than 60 years. There are new discoveries off the coast of Brazil, the Arctic and if worse comes to worse of the cost of Iran to keep us going for centuries. We are not running out of oil.

The advantage of a gas engine is that it can be converted to propane, including your RV and there is presumably plenty of methane which would also work. The cows will help since they replaced the plains bison. ( Note: we did not enter a new ice age when the bison were exterminated in virtually a decade by people like Wild Bill Cody and his Ilk.)

Since we cannot produce any new electricity, it takes 10,000 wind turbines according to one estimate to replace one coal fired power plant, an electric car which plugs into a non existent power source is useless.

[blueplum]

wind harvesting is fun - until 2-4ft shards of ice start breaking off the windmill blades and become airborne :)

[Wonder Warthog]

"What will we make our plastics, etc from if our oil is used up in 60 years?"

Anything with carbon in it, most likely biomass. Gasification and Fischer-Tropsch synthesis works with any carbon source---not just coal.