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General Jones shoots Israel
Samson Blinded ^ | December 3, 2008 | Obadiah Shoher

Posted on 12/06/2008 5:48:35 AM PST by danny1961

General James Jones, Obama’s choice for National Security Adviser, again revealed his staggering ignorance. The general might be an authority in conventional warfare - though it is unlikely, given his mere few months battlefield experience in Vietnam. General Jones pushes his hallmark solution for the West Bank: IDF moves out and NATO troops move in. The proposal reveals Gen. Jones complete ignorance of anti-terrorist warfare.

IDF is the only army in the world which curbed terrorism: from near-war levels in 2000-2003 to near-absence today. The success is due to two factors: extremely exhaustive intelligence and freedom of operations. IDF runs tens of thousands of Arab agents, from taxi drivers to the Ramallah government figures who squeak on terrorist attempts in progress. Some work for money, others are blackmailed and threatened. IDF’s Mishtarah Aravit, the Arab Police unit, do the things which make Guantanamo a kindergarten. No Palestinian, a commoner or official, is immune from Jewish teenagers in the Arab Police squad. That might not be nice, but Jewish bodies blown in terrorist acts were way worse.

Unlike IDF, NATO troops don’t know the art of vast intelligence networks; they don’t even have a reasonable number of Arab interpreters. There is no way NATO soldiers would hang a Palestinian official by his [not neck] to force information from him. They will not blackmail Palestinians in terrorist-ridden villages with eviction of their relatives from Israel. They won’t risk their lives very night in inconspicuous, mostly unreported raids of bomb labs. Besides all the training and operational issues, NATO troops just have no incentive for such activities.

US troops, the best of NATO’s, cannot curb terrorism in Iraq despite massive presence on the ground and serious collaboration by the Iraqis. Whatever calm was there for a few months is mostly attributable to Sadr’s decision to calm down to allow the US an honorary withdrawal. There might have been an US-Iranian arrangement to curb Shiite terrorism in Iraq in return to the US limiting itself to worthless sanctions against Iran and opposing Israel’s strike. US troops failed in terrorist warfare in Lebanon, Somalia, Vietnam, and other places. There is no chance of them securing the West Bank against Palestinian terrorism.

NATO troops are no different from the UN peacekeepers who failed miserably in Sinai in 1967 and now in Lebanon. Under the UNIFIL nose, Hezbollah increased its rocket arsenals fourfold since 2006 ceasefire. UNIFIL’s Italian contingent concluded a separate ceasefire with Hezbollah which won’t attack their installations while the peacekeepers turn a blind eye to weapons smuggling.

General Jones wants to sweeten the pill of forcing Israel’s withdrawal from the ancient Jewish lands of Judea and Samaria by the fake security offered by NATO troops. In 1956, Eisenhower lured Israel into withdrawal from Sinai by promising to keep the Tiran Straits open; when Egypt closed them in 1967, the only thing the US did was to push Israel to refrain from preemption. IDF learned the lesson and protest vociferously the NATO deployment.

Jewish ultra-leftist Martin Indyk, ignorant and arrogant as always, has a suggestion of his own: US nuclear guarantee to Israel. According to his plan, US will promise to nuke Iran if it nukes Israel. That’s quite a post-mortem comfort for the fried Jews. Iran lost millions of its people in the war with Iraq which is certainly less relevant to the mullahs than annihilation of the Zionist entity; the US reprisal is not a great threat, then. The reprisal is non-credible: if the US objects to mere attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities now, what’s the probability of America nuking Iran’s population centers? Minus one hundred percent, to be exact. Indyk’s plan is another sweet pill for Israel: this one, to accept the American ban on attacking Iran. Incredibly, Jews believe that Indyk is pro-Israeli.

With friends like these ones, who needs enemies?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho2008; bhomiddleeast; bhonsa; deceit; dhimmi; generaljones; islam; israel; jamesjones; jihad; mohammedanism; mohammedanism122008; nato; obama; westbank
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To: Bender2

No, June 1968 was when he was PROMOTED, not when he got in-country. THAT was October of 1967. You cut and pasted without READING??????


41 posted on 12/06/2008 9:19:12 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Sherman Logan

But remember the IDF is the “gold standard” when it comes to how terrorism is to be fought. The other forces learned so much from them. Even now the IDF is training the Indian army in fighting against terror in light of the Mumbai attacks.


43 posted on 12/07/2008 6:12:26 AM PST by Biggirl (BlessedAdventChristianNewYear2008-09=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Biggirl
the IDF is the “gold standard” when it comes to how terrorism is to be fought

I'll buy that. Although they didn't enhance that reputation in their most recent bout with Hezbollah in Lebanon.

44 posted on 12/07/2008 6:19:38 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: dcwusmc
Re: You cut and pasted without READING??????

No, as my post #24 indicates, I cut & paste... while drinking heavily!

45 posted on 12/07/2008 6:48:12 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Yehuda

No. My point was simply that is someone appears to not make Israel’s security the most important thing in the world, they are attacked by those who appear to think Israel’s safety is more important that the US’s.

It’s about the DS reaction people - not the value of a particular position on a particular argument


46 posted on 12/07/2008 9:00:44 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

This article & the blog it comes from is addressed primarily to an Israeli audience.


47 posted on 12/07/2008 11:22:44 AM PST by forkinsocket
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To: danny1961

From the article:

“US troops, the best of NATO’s, cannot curb terrorism in Iraq despite massive presence on the ground and serious collaboration by the Iraqis. Whatever calm was there for a few months is mostly attributable to Sadr’s decision to calm down to allow the US an honorary withdrawal.”

Huh author sounds just like Obama.


49 posted on 12/07/2008 12:11:58 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Yehuda

To quote Sgt Hulka: “Lighten up, Francis.”


50 posted on 12/07/2008 5:07:15 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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51 posted on 12/08/2008 4:44:25 AM PST by SJackson (http://www.jewish-history.com/emporium/)
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To: PurpleMan
Betraying an ally and rewarding Islamic terrorism is the opposite of our interests.
Having Americans become human shields for a non-peace is not in our interests.

Anyone who pulls a US interest argument for defending Leftist Internationalism is a useful idiot.

52 posted on 12/08/2008 11:04:34 AM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: danny1961

NATO can’t even take care of the pirates!!!!
or Afghanistan!!!
or fill the blank _________________________________________


53 posted on 12/08/2008 2:02:02 PM PST by victim soul
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To: anniegetyourgun
Absolutely! I have never held to the belief that the Antichrist will come out of America, and I still think that Obama is just the prototype, or forerunner. However, I am increasingly more cautious and beginning to think that the possibility does exist. I don't wish that on anyone, but the way Obama thinks he is sent to deliver the world, one cannot deny the possibility. We'd better prepare for what the Bible calls the “end of the times of the gentiles”, as it seems more apparent every day that we have accelerated into the final stages.
54 posted on 12/08/2008 11:31:40 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Shery

Yes, I believe time is short for this earth.


55 posted on 12/09/2008 9:36:10 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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