Posted on 12/09/2008 8:10:11 AM PST by SmithL
Morning; we’re probably next.
In fact, some insult to the immune system is necessary for its development. I know one mother whose son had chronic asthma that resolved almost immediately after moving to Shanghai!
Someone should do a study comparing the amount of biomass burned in California's wildfires in any given year with the amount burned in all the wood stoves in California. I bet the ratio is 1000:1 or worse. It will make this ban on wood stoves and fireplace use look idiotic.
EPA certified wood stoves don’t smoke except for about the fifteen minutes after you reload them. I have one that runs 24/7, and the only visible sign that it’s running is the heat waves coming off the chimney cap.
If you clean your chimney regularly, there’s also virtually no smell.
I wonder how they’re going to enforce the six hour limit since detection will be a problem.
If you are collecting data an article on November 16th of this year reported “through last week 1.24 million acres burned in California”.
I live about 60 miles north east of Davis and my own local government IS doing it. You need to understand that these local initiatives are being pushed by the California Air Resources Board, an agency which creates law through a “rule making” process and has given us the “special” fuel blends that are keeping fuel prices higher than the national average, the “special” fuel containers that Sasquatch mentioned and a host of other rules and regulations that are giving businesses more reasons for fleeing the state. CARB was created to improve air quality in the state, and they have done some things that have helped but in recent years, with liberals in full control of the state, they have gone just a bit over board to my way of thinking.
With the additional proviso that, pound for pound, stoves are a LOT cleaner than wildfires. In addition, somebody should study whether the smoke is as bad as the mold spores from rotting wood. Some smoke is actually developmentally beneficial to the immune system. Then there is the issue of whether fire dependent species can reproduce before their seed bank is exhausted. Etc.
Hence, the whole point of these regulations has NOTHING to do with smoke and EVERYTHING to do with paying taxes on carbon associated with combustion of natural gas. It's a wealth transfer to the very rich to sweeten their investments in the third whirled. Force people to use the product and then tax them for it.
“Someone should do a study comparing the amount of biomass burned in California’s wildfires in any given year with the amount burned in all the wood stoves in California.”
You are SO right. As a resident of the Sacramento Valley, and an asthma sufferer, I spent most of my summer (when I wasn’t at work)locked in the house with the HEPA filters going full blast. The visibility was near zero for all the smoke and in the foothill communities nearby it was even worse. Makes it kind of hard to take these new regs seriously but I guarantee you, these state agencies take themselves very seriously and once they start down a path such as this, there is little that can be done to head them off.
I’m so glad to live in such a “backward” state where every aspect of my daily life is not dictated by government. At least we still have some freedoms.
I had forgotten about Davis, I sorta skimmed that part. I feel Portland Oregon deserves all the crap, taxes, & congestion it gets for the weirdos they elect. I wish they had no influence on the rest of us in the state.
give a man a fire, warm him for a day
set a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.
I know the feeling. Moved to Bay Area about 20 years ago, settling in a relatively sane enclave about 25 miles east of SF with large hills to keep out the riffier of the riff-raff. Still, I can sense a weird-o creep the past few years as the moonbats age and realize what a cesspool EssEff has become for normal people to live. Or what they perceive as "normal"...
Every time the brown cloud descends over Phoenix, Arizona, we have the same kind of ban. Never mind that we live in a Valley, and if there isn’t enough air flow then every time a coyote chases a roadrunner we are going to get particulates in the air.
Opponents of this proposed ordinance should prepare in advance for a referendum, in case the Davis City Council passes it. See sections 9237-9245 of the California Elections Code (http://snipr.com/7pe1e) for details. A referendum requires valid signatures from 10% of the voters (so gather at least 15% to have enough margin) within a narrow 30-day window. It's difficult but doable, if enough Davis residents are upset and are organized to gather signatures right from the start of the 30-day period. Filing signatures for a referendum will suspend the ordinance until the council either rescinds it or puts it to a vote of the people.
Interesting...my Jotul #8 has been running continuously since Sunday, getting filled twice a day. After reading this I checked the smoke signature from the chimney and it is tough to tell I am burning. The beauty of this stove is that it is noncatalytic...perfect.
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