Posted on 12/10/2008 8:33:43 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
AIDS is a COLLECTION of opportunistic DISEASES, which attack the body AFTER the immune system, has been rendered ineffective by a repeated exposure to those multiple infections typical to and acquired from homosexual sex.
When you play in a sewer, you get sick.
HIV is a harmless “piggyback” virus. There exist people with full blown AIDS who have no trace of HIV; and other people, who although their blood is loaded with HIV cells for decades, they never develop AIDS. Dr. Peter Duesberg showed that human white blood cells thrive in a Petri dish loaded with the HIV virus. The HIV-AIDS connection is completely political, driven by the corruption of the research establishment, whose ethics have been destroyed through their addiction to federal funding.
AIDS is over-diagnosed, especially in the third world countries where simple ailments like pneumonia and malaria are life-threatening to those who are mal-nourished, under-developed and lack access to proper hydration.
Urban cases represent years of severe self-abuse through drugs, STDs and injury.
This is less important than the fact that a lie is willingly perpetuated to gain and retain funding for a political movement in the name of scientific inquiry.
So what is the cause of AIDS?? Habitual feces consumption?
They are saying there was never proof that it was the virus blamed and it still is not fully explained.
A consensus of error, if you will.
LOL. No, but said discusting behaviors can lead to many other nasty diseases. For laman’s versions of what these scientists say causes AIDS, see my profile page. Pay particular attention to the Conservative Press section of my profile page. If, after reading up on the subject, you would like to be added to the Rethinking AIDS ping list, drop me a FReepmail. All the best—GGG
Not so, they have just accepted the notion as it is very lucrative to do so and very costly to disagree.
Duesberg exonerates himself!!!!!!!
(Imagine that. Yea, that'll work)
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, how do you explain the astronomical death-rates of HIV-infected hemophiliacs who got the virus from tained blood, then later died of AIDS? How about children born infected with HIV who later die of the same AIDS-related diseases?
There exist people with full blown AIDS who have no trace of HIV
There are people out there who have immune-system disorders who fall prey to the same types of diseases as AIDS-sufferers. But, the existence of other immune-system diseases is not an argument against HIV causing AIDS.
and other people, who although their blood is loaded with HIV cells for decades, they never develop AIDS
Sure. So what? You will always find people with immunities to certain illnesses. Also, our modern regimes of ant-virals give people with HIV the ability to fight the illness.
If HIV causes AIDS, then how is Magic Johnson still alive?
I don’t have a problem with HIV not being the cause, but as I recall, every positive case of AIDS is also positive for the virus. Is there a new virus? Regardless, deviant sexual behavior has led to a host of infectious disease problems. “Gays” are the #1 vector for the spread of diseases among humans and many foreign nations want rid of this public health threat, but not the US. Male homosexuals have the highest incidence of HIV/AIDS, syphilis, drug-resistant gonorrhea, entamoeba histolytica, chlamydia, herpes simplex II, Chancroid, Drug Resistant TB, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis non A & B, just to name a few. The press of course never discusses the CDC facts, but if you want to look for yourself the information is in the scientific literature. More than any other segment of society, the homosexuals are costing us billions in medical care. This is the outrage that gets ignored—hey, we have smokers to blame for bad habits.
“So, how do you explain the astronomical death-rates of HIV-infected hemophiliacs who got the virus from tained blood, then later died of AIDS? How about children born infected with HIV who later die of the same AIDS-related diseases?”
RE: The toxic coctails of poison they are forced to take, so to “cure” a non-disease. Read ‘The HIV Myth’ by Jad Adams. Your eyes will be opened, as were my own.
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TCH: There exist people with full blown AIDS who have no trace of HIV
Citizen Blade: “There are people out there who have immune-system disorders who fall prey to the same types of diseases as AIDS-sufferers. But, the existence of other immune-system diseases is not an argument against HIV causing AIDS.”
RE: Non-sequitur.
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Citizen Blade: “...You will always find people with immunities to certain illnesses. Also, our modern regimes of ant-virals give people with HIV the ability to fight the illness.”
I thought AIDS was hopelessly fatal? Hmmm? If people actually have an immunity, then where are the ANTIBODIES that MUST be present for such an immunity to exist?
NATURAL IMMUNITY = NATURAL ANTIBODIES = SYNTHETIC ANTIBODIES = CURE.
Your second sentence answers your first question.
Get off the MSM propaganda bandwagon, and start reading independent research on the subject... independent of the corrupting influence of politically-motivated federal funding.
“Scientists are always honest and never lie, even when the Nobel Prize is at stake”
Certainly not. But Gallo didn’t win the Nobel Prize. Two other guys who agree with him did.
The HIV-doesn’t-cause-AIDS crowd seem to me like the biomedical version of truthers. I have an open mind on the subject, but if HIV doesn’t cause AIDS then why do drugs that attack the HIV virus benefit AIDS patients? And why does the amount of HIV virus in the body predict the likelihood of AIDS symptoms?
It pay to be skeptical, but not irrational.
Uhhhhhh....Because he is on a strict regime of Protease Inhibitor drugs designed to interfere with Retrovirus replication?
Your FR-name is quite fitting.
***BTW, see my tagline.***
LOL. Magic Johnson not only takes the drug cocktail himself, he also sponsors clinics where CHILDREN are given the drugs.
Imagine, Magic Johnson killing CHILDREN.
The shame.
Some folks are perpetually stuck in 1994.
But better late than never.
So, how do you explain the fact that people infected with HIV who are not on a regimem of of anti-virals have a much lower life expectancy than those who are? Using your logic, shouldn't people with HIV who take anti-virals die more quickly than those who do not?
RE: Non-sequitur.
People with AIDS die for the same reason as people with other auto-immune disorders or illnesses. The existence of other auto-immune disorders is not an argument against HIV/AIDS.
I thought AIDS was hopelessly fatal? Hmmm?
Life is hopelessly fatal. But, some people are fortunate enough to have a natural immunity to HIV.
NATURAL IMMUNITY = NATURAL ANTIBODIES = SYNTHETIC ANTIBODIES = CURE.
We were never able to find a cure for Small Pox, despite the fact that there were some people with natural immunities to that virus. Researchers are working on this. But HIV is a difficult virus to defeat as it evolves very rapidly compared to other viruses.
Your argument here seems to be that since we haven't found a cure for HIV/AIDS, then the illness doesn't exist. The logical flaw in such an argument are clear.
Get off the MSM propaganda bandwagon, and start reading independent research on the subject... independent of the corrupting influence of politically-motivated federal funding.
That's the usual argument of the conpiracy-theorist: everyone else is in the dark and the theorist is the only one privy to special knowledge.
I'm sure that I will get slammed for this, but Christians need to love any sinner to Christ. That's not to say that we compromise ourselves and accept the sin, but we have to realize that being healed of sin often takes time.
I worked in the music industry as a sideline when younger, and befriended many homosexuals. They knew where I stood but I never beat them over the head. Almost all of them, when they opened up to me, said that they had been sexually abused or abandoned -- either physically or emotionally -- as children.
A man died of AIDS-related causes five years ago in the arms of my wife and me. He had become a committed Christian about 6 months earlier, mostly due to the efforts of my wife. He's in heaven now. If my wife and other Christians had not shown compassion to him, he would not be in heaven.
Be loving and understanding. I doubt that anyone ever came to know the Lord as a result of people holding up signs saying, "God hates fags."
“...if HIV doesn’t cause AIDS then why do drugs that attack the HIV virus benefit AIDS patients? And why does the amount of HIV virus in the body predict the likelihood of AIDS symptoms?”
For the same reason that if you are given an antibiotic to kill some bacterial infection, the drug does not DISTINGUISH between the target bacteria and other bacteria in the body... even the GOOD bacteria. The drug kills all of the bacteria, good and bad. You must keep in mind that AIDS is NOT a disease... it IS a collection (syndrome) of other well-known diseases acting in concert against and already compromised immune system. One of the drugs used to “treat” AIDS, originally developed under ‘orphan drug status’ by the Welcome Pharmaceutical Company, causes the exact same symptoms as Carpis sarcoma... one of the principle killers in AIDS.
A combination of taking the required anti-AIDS drugs, good nutrition and the generally high health level of a professional athlete. Plus, being wealthy enough to afford the best in doctors and medical care to keep the illness under control.
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