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To: ckilmer

As long as one parent is a US citizen, a person is born a citizen. The US has never recognized other countries claims to US citizens (in part why the War of 1812 was fought). No court is going to rule otherwise. SCOTUS just looked at this issue and rejected it (again). This stuff just makes conservatives look kooky. I suggest spending time and energy on fighting about issues instead.


4 posted on 12/13/2008 10:45:26 AM PST by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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To: Hugin
As long as one parent is a US citizen, a person is born a citizen.

Wrong. You have some reading to do to get up to date on this issue!

7 posted on 12/13/2008 10:49:37 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Hugin
As long as one parent is a US citizen, a person is born a citizen.

Look at the history of Chester Arthur. Why was Chet in such a fret to cover up the fact that his father did not become a U.S. citizen until over a decade after he was born?
13 posted on 12/13/2008 10:57:44 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Hugin

Oh my you goof....so what if he is a citizen that’s not the issue...he is NOT a natural born citizen.


19 posted on 12/13/2008 11:43:53 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Hugin

As long as one parent is a US citizen, a person is born a citizen. The US has never recognized other countries claims to US citizens (in part why the War of 1812 was fought). No court is going to rule otherwise. SCOTUS just looked at this issue and rejected it (again). This stuff just makes conservatives look kooky. I suggest spending time and energy on fighting about issues instead.””

Please go back and read some of the prior threads on this topic.

Stanley Ann would have had to be at least 19 years old under the laws of the USA at the time of NObama’s birth.

She was only 18.


21 posted on 12/13/2008 11:59:40 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Hugin
This stuff just makes conservatives look kooky. I suggest spending time and energy on fighting about issues instead.

I disagree. It makes Conservatives look like students of the Constitution and followers thereof.

I suggest you listen to or read The Federalist Papers. We've "conveniently forgotten" what our Fore Fathers said. It's time to recall and restudy. Past time.
http://www.americanaphonic.com/
23 posted on 12/13/2008 12:12:31 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate.)
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To: Hugin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2148287/posts
How’s BROE V REED sound? The Washington Supreme Court has set a date for the case Broe v. Reed, to be heard en banc on January 8, 2009. All the “kooks” will be looking at this one! It has a nice ring to its name as well!


27 posted on 12/13/2008 12:16:03 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Hugin

If Obama was born in Kenya, he is not a natural born US citizen, no matter who his parents were.

There is speculation that after he was born in Kenya... (and Kenyans now revel in the fact that he was born there and they know exactly the place)... his mother returned to Hawaii, where until 1973, they issued a birth cerificate that is different from the one required to be POTUS. Having a Hawaiian BC means nothing, since they would issue it to any child born outside the USA, if one parent had resided in Hawaii.

That is why the Hawaiian BC is sealed. It would reveal he was not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya.

Also note that investigators have called every Hawaiian hospital to see if O was born at any of them and none have answered in the affirmative.

If he was an honest man, and a genuine natural born US citizen he would have not spent a million dollars in lawyers to hide his worthless sealed Hawaiian BC. He is not a natural born citizen. Any of us would be able to show our US COLBs in 5 minutes. He will not do the same. He is a liar.


34 posted on 12/13/2008 1:14:36 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: Hugin
As long as one parent is a US citizen, a person is born a citizen.

That turns out not to be the case. The law has changed from time to time.

In 1961 when Obama was born, and for decades before and after, the law required that the US Citizen parent to have lived in the US for a total of at least 10 years, Obama's mother had, but it also required that at least 5 of those years be after the parent's 14th birthday. Obama's mother had not. She was only 18 when Barrack was born, and only 17 when she got pregnant. Thus, if BHO was born outside the US he was not a citizen at birth. (The current law requires 5 years, 2 after the 14th birthday. IMHO, that is not enough to satisfy the intent of the Natural Born, provision of the Constitution, but it is the current law).

40 posted on 12/14/2008 7:30:46 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Hugin

That’s a simplistic view of what is required for citizenship. There are requirements to be natural born. There are some good summaries of those requirements, right here on FR even.


71 posted on 12/17/2008 12:30:35 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Hugin
As long as one parent is a US citizen, a person is born a citizen.

I am sorry, how many times does this have to be said? A person born of ONE US citizen parent in a foreign country, if said parent didn't meet the requirements set forth by US law(those requirements have to do with how long the Citizen parent lived in the US in total and how long after the age of 18, in 1961 the total years were 14 and the years if residency after 18 was 10, Bozo's mother didn't meet those requirements)and Bozo's mother didn't meet those requirements, then that child is NOT a US citizen. Therefore, if Bozo was born in any country but CONUS, Alaska or Hawaii or one of the territories of the US, he is NOT a natural born citizen or an citizen at all.

The fact that he won't show his BC is very suspicious to say the least and the longer he fights showing it the more suspicious it looks.

To recap, if Bozo wasn't born in the US then he is NOT a natural born citizen, this cannot be argued, it was the law in 1961 and it is, with a few minor changes, still the law today. The 1961 law holds for Bozo. The only thing that can be argued is whether he was born in the US or a foreign country.

159 posted on 12/27/2008 12:47:03 PM PST by calex59
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To: Hugin
"As long as one parent is a US citizen, a person is born a citizen."

What does that have to do with anything?

The folks who are upset about Obama's eligibility or lack thereof are not concerned with "citizenship." They are concerned with whether he is a "Natural Born Citizen" which is a more narrowly defined category than "citizen." And having a citizen mother does NOT make one a "Natural Born Citizen."

194 posted on 12/28/2008 12:45:53 PM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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