Political Scientist Says Electoral College Lacks What It Need To Elect Obama To White House

PR Web ^ | 12/11/08 | Dr. Mary Maxwell

[BP2]

Political scientist Dr. Mary Maxwell reports a dilemma faced by Electoral College members. She said today: "If a candidate makes a fraudulent claim to be eligible for the presidency he violates election laws and in many states." So far," said Maxwell, "Obama has asked everyone to take his word for it that he meets eligibility. But Electors may take the opposite approach, refusing to cast a ballot for him on Dec. 15th if he obstinately withholds proof of eligibility."

You could have been born on another planet...

... have a single person claim to be your legal parent with a Hawaiian address as their residence the last 12 months...

... have that person claim that you were born at home without the aid of a midwife or any other witnesses...

... have that person create an affidavit and fill out an application for a “Certificate of Delayed Birth”...

... file it YEARS later...

... ask for the state of Hawaii to print you a “CertificATION of Life Birth” as proof of birth...

... and show no more verification of American citizenship than Barack Obama has!

[338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

Barack Obama has walked a straight line in a crooked world, around his associations with Blagojevich, Rezko, Ayers, Emil Jones, Farrakhan, Rev. Wright and others.

Why shouldn't we just believe him about his "birth certificate"?

[rjp2005]

If we really wanted to shake the hornets nest we could file suits against every one of those electors if they go through with it.

[Popman]

Why shouldn't we just believe him about his "birth certificate"?

messiahs don't lie.

According to a LA Times writer he is an "attuned being", "a lightworker".

The question is, was he even born or was he a gift to heal our world from above ?

< / sarcasm >

[tomnbeverly]

Obama is a Typical Illinois politician, so the American people should leave nothing to chance and should question everything about this guy.

[AGreatPer]

Outstanding post. Thank you.

[Guenevere]

I’ll bttt this.

[Diogenesis]

Earth Frisk Blog claims that every hospital in Hawaii was recently queried in an attempt to discover the hospital where Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Barack Hussein Obama.
* The Queen’s Medical Center - Honolulu, Hawaii Obama claims as his birth hospital
* Kapi’ olani Medical Center Obama’s sister claims Barack Obama born here
* Honolulu Shriners Hospital Never a patient Mom or Obama
* Straub Clinic & Hospital Never a patient Mom or Obama
* Hawaii Health Systems Corporation - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
* Cancer Institute of Maui - Wailuku, Hawaii No Comment ???
* Kuakini Hospital - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
* Rehabilitation Hospital of the Pacific - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
* St. Francis Healthcare System of Hawaii - Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
* Straub Heatlh - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
* Tripler Medical Center - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
* Wahiawa General Hospital - Wahiawa, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
* Wilcox Memorial Hospital - Lihue, Kauai, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Not Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released - Proven Counterfeit
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, Not Signed)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None (Locked up to prohibit public view
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost (All other Illinois state senators’ records are intact)
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

[cripplecreek]

"An Obama spokesman has called the eligibility controversy 'garbage,' and wants to keep pertinent records under seal." "Privacy is of great value,"

Somone should send this to Doctor Maxwell

"Let me also say that I remain distressed that the White House during this confirmation process, which overall went smoothly, failed to provide critical documents as part of the record that could have provided us with a better basis to make our judgment with respect to the nomination. This White House continues to stymie efforts on the part of the Senate to do its job. I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us."

Remarks of Senator Barack Obama on the Confirmation of Judge John Roberts

[null and void]

Neither metaphorically nor literally.

In a year the press will turn on him, or he will turn on them.

What happens after that is anyone’s guess.

[originalbuckeye]

We shouldn't just believe him because he is a pathological liar. He has lied about Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, Rezko, Blagojovich, his grandmother (she had cancer and he said hip replacement), etc., etc., etc.. Lying is just political expediency for the Dems. Don't worry. He can say and do anything he wants in the next four years and he will not be held accountable.

[demsux]

How would one determine who the electors are for one's state???

Missouri for example?

[OldEagle]

Lets suppose he actually was born in Kenya and that the BC in Hawaii is the Delayed BC that was issued an a result of his adoption and name change. I mean, it could have happened that way. What proof do we have?

And lets suppose he wasn't a citizen and knew it. He wouldn't have registered for the draft and he might have attended three universities as a foreign exchange student.

Never has someone come so far without leaving a single footprint.

[Guenevere]

What are the credentials on Mary Maxwell?...Thanks :)

[sbark]

Correct....Can a list of the electors be published and contact Infor.....or are them kept insulated?

.Obama is just the end result of the problem, the root cause of the problem needs to be attacked-—and that is the electors themselves and thier apathy to the Constituional question at hand.

I realize all the cases are being pushed at SCOTUS, but it is really a state court issue-—problem is the time element.

[Mr. Jeeves]

Obama has been declared fully eligible by the weight of public and media opinion. No one with the power to stop him is going to stand in front of that freight train.

[Red_Devil 232]

The computer-generated “Certification of Live Birth” was first used in November 2001 to allow the State of Hawaii to pull up birth records quicker for people requesting a “birth certificate” in person. At the very bottom of the form are the words, “This copy serves as prima facia evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.” [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]."

However, despite this written notice on the form, some Hawaii state agencies do not accept the “Certification of Live Birth” as irrefutable verification of Hawaiian birth. There have been numerous cases when the Hawaii Family Court System required more detailed data for paternity suits. Additionally, the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands provides the following guidelines to Hawaiian natives applying for Hawaiian Home Lands homestead:

The primary documents used to show you are of age and a qualified native Hawaiian are:
- A certified copy of Certificate of Birth;
- A certified copy of Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, including testimonies; or
- A certified copy of Certificate of Delayed Birth.

“In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.” (emphasis added)

Additionally, the “Certification of Live Birth” is not recognized by many Federal agencies. DoD 5220.22-M, the "National Industrial Security Program Operating Manual," provides baseline standards for the protection of classified information released or disclosed to industry. “Unified Facilities Guide Specifications,” section 1.5.22.2 allows for a total of 18 different means to verify US citizenship, ranging from a military ID card to even a “Hawaii certificate of foreign birth.” The “Certification of Live Birth” is not on the list of approved documents acceptable for proof of Citizenship.

[alexander_busek]

[...] or are them kept insulated?

No, "them" are not kept insulated (or isolated.)

Regards,

[granite]

bttt

[stompk]

“If we really wanted to shake the hornets nest we could file suits against every one of those electors if they go through with it.”

let me know when there is a fund to contribute to.