Posted on 12/14/2008 9:57:46 AM PST by BP2
I don't agree with you on that. BO shiat on the press several times in the campaign and they lapped it up. It is difficult (for me anyway) to imagine a scenario where a significant portion of the lib media will turn on him.
He works for the American people.
And it will be TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE and WITHIN BOUNDS for any (and all) Americans to not recognize him as president until he has supplied the proof of the requirements.”
Another thing that bothers me:
NObama and his cohorts have made waaaay to many references to NObama being ready to RULE on Jan 20.
I didn’t think we elected RULERS in this country. I thought that was what the Reveloutionary War was all about.
I thought we elected Presidents and REPRESENTATIVE persons in the 2 houses of Congress to run the country for us.
Not only has the Democrap part of the Congress run us into a ditch, we now are supposed to accept a RULER.
Not in this house.
Not in my lifetime.
This jerk will NEVER be MY President.
That depends entirely on how hard he pushes them. People will do the most amazing things of their own free will, yet balk at far less if they are being forced into do them.
Well, I still can’t see it happening. But you can feel free to say “I told you so” if it does. That’s one serving of crow I will gladly eat.
This is valid, but I don't expect it to make dim electors even bat an eye. After all, fraud - especially election fraud - is a career enhancer for dims. They don't care about the Constitution and michelle 0bama has been quoted as saying "no law will prevent Baraq from being President [Usurper]"
Heck, I’ll provide condiments, and even join you, just to be neighborly...
Now that is a different issue. I don’t trust him as
far as I can throw him.
This must be asked on the heels of Blago's arrest and exposure of the open cesspool known as Illinois politics.
Nor I. Straight up, from the bottom of a well, while standing in 10 feet of water.
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TO ALL CONCERNED:
THE KEYES’ LAWSUIT (SEE BELOW: ‘PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDATE’)
NOTICE THAT PRECEDENT IS ESTABLISHED FOR REMOVING CANDIDATES THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. (SEE # 78)
OBAMA — AND CONSPIRATORS (IF ANY) — MAY HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME. ( see # 76)
ON THE QUESTION OF ‘STANDING.’ (see 71 & 72)
WHY A CERTIFIED COPY OR AN ORIGINAL VAULT CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH IS NECESSARY TO SHOW THAT SENATOR OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII — AS HE HAS ATTESTED — AND NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE. (see 74 & 75)
PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDATE:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/AlanKeyesSuit.pdf
EXCERPTS:
71. United States Code (U.S.C.) Section 8 provides, “The electors shall vote for President and Vice President, respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.” This federal statute confers upon each elector an affirmative duty to discover whether the candidate for President for which theelector is seeking election is a “natural born” citizen. Otherwise, the elector would not know if his vote was being cast in the “manner directed by the Constitution.”
72. Given this constitutionally mandated duty, PETITIONERS have standing to bring this Writ before this Court.
73. A growing number of questions have arisen in litigation in at least 10 statescontesting whether Senator John McCain or Senator Barack Obama are “natural born” citizens and, therefore, constitutionally eligible to be entrusted with the Office of President of the United States. In the litigation against Senator Obama, allegations have been made that his admitted dual citizenship in Indonesia, and lack of evidence that he renounced the same, caused a loss of his United States Citizenship as a matter of law. Moreover, evidence released by the Obama campaign purporting to be a “Certification of Live Birth” on its face appears to be of questionable authenticity. One of the many problems with this evidence is that the border design differs from the border designs of other Certifications of Live Birth printed during the same time period. All these questions about both of the candidates are still unresolved.In the course of those lawsuits,some of which have been dismissed, it has been determined that there exists no designated official in the federal government, or the government of the states, directly charged with the responsibility of determining whether any Presidential candidate meets the qualifications of Article II of the Constitution of the United States. In most states,that responsibility is vested with the political parties, all of which have a conflict of interest in making any such determination, and none of which have been forthcoming with information or evidence verifying any candidate’s compliance with the eligibility requirements.
74. A press release was issued on October 31, 2008, by the Hawaii Department of Health by its Director, Dr. Chiyome Fukino. Dr. Fukino said that she had “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Senator Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.” That statement failed to resolve any of the questions being raised by litigation and press accounts. Being “on record” could mean either that its contents are in the computer database of the department or there is an actual “vault” original.
75. Further, the report does not say whether the birth certificate in the “record” is a Certificate of Live Birth or a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. In Hawaii,a Certificate of Live Birth resulting from hospital documentation, including a signature of an attending physician, is different from a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. For births prior to 1972, a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth was the result of the uncorroborated testimony of one witness and was not generated by a hospital. Such a Certificate could be obtained up to one year from the date of the child’s birth. For that reason, its value as prima facie evidence is limited and could be overcome if any of the allegations of substantial evidence of birth outside Hawaii can be obtained. The vault (long Version) birth certificate, per Hawaiian Statute 883.176 allows the birth in another State or another country to be registered in Hawaii. Box 7C of the vault Certificate of Live Birth contains a question, whether the birth was in Hawaii or another State or Country. Therefore, the only way to verify the exact location of birth is to review a certified copy or the original vault Certificate of Live Birth and compare the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor against the birthing records on file at the hospital noted on the Certificate of the Live Birth.
76. An unprecedented and looming constitutional crisis awaits if a President elected by the popular vote and the electoral vote does not constitutionally qualify to serve in that capacity. In addition,if Senator Obama is not a “natural born” citizen and not eligible for presidency, Senator Obama will be subject to the criminal Provisions of the California Elections Code, stating, “Any person who files or submit for filing a nomination paper or declaration of candidacy knowing that it, or any part of it, has been made falsely is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by both the fine and imprisonment” (California Elections Code § 18203). Further, Senator Obama, SOS, the Governor of the State of California, and all of the California Electors may be subject to the penal provisions of the California Elections Code which states, “Any person who commits fraud and any person who aids or abets fraud or attempts to aid or abet fraud, in connection with any vote cast, to be cast, or attempted to be cast, is guilty of felony, punishable by imprisonment for 16 months or two or three years” (California Elections Code § 18500 ).
77. The Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides, “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or in the manner in which one who is to act shall be elected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.” Thus, if Senator Obama cannot take office due to his citizenship, succession to the Presidency is set.
II
BACKGROUND OF THE CASE
78. The Office of the Secretary of State of California is the California agency responsible for certifying candidates for inclusion on the ballot. Historically, California Secretaries of State have exercised their due diligence by reviewing necessary background documents, verifying that the candidates that were submitted by the respective political parties as eligible for the ballot were indeed eligible. In 1968, the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for President of the United States. The then SOS, Mr. Frank Jordan, found that, according to Mr. Cleaver’s birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the 35 years of age needed to be on the ballot as a candidate for President. Using his administrative powers, Mr.Jordan removed Mr. Cleaver from the ballot. Mr. Cleaver unsuccessfully challenged this decision to the Supreme Court of the State of California, and, later, to the Supreme Court of the United States. Similarly, in 1984, the Peace and Freedom Party listed Mr. Larry Holmes as an eligible candidate in the Presidential primary. When the then SOS checked his eligibility, it was found that Mr. Holmes was similarly not eligible, and Mr. Holmes was removed from the ballot. Currently, we have a similar situation in that the Democratic Party has submitted the name of Senator Barack Obama as candidate for President.
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That actually looks pretty good.
My prediction is that after swearing in it will be discovered that he in fact is NOT an American citizen. The blue states will swear allegiance and the red states will revolt. The US will effectively end.
If there is ever one found within the MSM pool of reporters, I'm sure his press cred will be pulled and banished to cover the GOP in someplace like Wyoming
McCain had a chance to use the fact that even Rev. Wright called Obama a “typical politician - Doing what politicians do!” - yet McCain full of wisdom (or something else) decided not to use the Wright issue.
He could have used Wright’s own words in an ad - over and over again to reveal what Obama is really like - those Chicago politicians - “wheeling and dealing.”
Obama will never be taken to task about his birth records because the media (the power-brokers) are adamant that they want the first back President! And the Electoral College which is just as bad - will submit their votes for him irregardless!
Well put. The greatest indictment here is that he has not been willing at all to verify his eligibility. Further, one could make a case that this has been the intention for a long period of time, perhaps as far back as the writing of his first ‘book’ in which a birth certificate is mentioned, or even the time of international travel to country(s) not accepting US passports at that time. Were there travel using another country’s passport at one time, that by itself would imply ‘other’ citizenship, and there appears no evidence since that travel, mentioned in his own writing, of any documentation of naturalization to become or return to being a US citizen.
Ping, this is a good one!
Gee, I remember posting this that the Electoral vote for Obama would be invalidated because their candidate committed fraud.
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