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Bernie Madoff's Victims: The List
Silicon Valley Insider ^ | 12/14/08 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 12/15/2008 6:25:20 AM PST by marshmallow

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To: Hildy
I wrote: I would have to say, I am probaly richer than any of those people on that list!

You replied: That's quite an assumption

Obviously if you have to make a comment like that - you truly do not understand what it means to be rich!!!

121 posted on 12/15/2008 9:00:38 AM PST by HomeschoolMomma (No thanks...I already have a Messiah!)
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To: WayneS

If it sounds too good to be true, odds are that it is. With any investment, there’s always risk. When you give your money to a crook, the risk rises considerably.


122 posted on 12/15/2008 9:01:40 AM PST by csvset
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To: Hildy; HomeschoolMomma

WOW, Hildy,

What a truly unnecessary thing to say to someone who was being nothing but friendly towards you.


123 posted on 12/15/2008 9:02:44 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: csvset

Exactly!


124 posted on 12/15/2008 9:03:15 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS

I know a guy who was in Bernie’s fund via another fund that invested with Bernie. This guy had a $500,000 401k that’s probably torched. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.......unfortunately this guy was smart enough to make the money in the first place but not smart enough to understand where his “investment” was actually residing.


125 posted on 12/15/2008 9:04:30 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: csvset
With any investment, there’s always risk.

True, but when the nature of the risk is fraudulently understated, that undermines confidence in the market, and things like this are very much the reason we are in the economic dire straits we are in today.

126 posted on 12/15/2008 9:04:56 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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After reading the posts that remain, I can only imagine what was deleted.
127 posted on 12/15/2008 9:05:12 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HomeschoolMomma

No, I know what it means..the fact you think you know the happiness level of others means you truly do not understand much of anything. That being said, if you look at that list, so much was lost in OTHER FUNDS...and who invests in those other funds? Your neighbors, your cousins, maybe even you through your own brokers. If one part of the system fails...alot of innocents get hurt. Did you see the charities that will no longer be helping the needy? There are and will be many, many, VICTIMS of this and if you can’t even have empathy at that level, then I seriously doubt the “wealth” you speak of.


128 posted on 12/15/2008 9:11:01 AM PST by Hildy
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To: WayneS; homeschool mama

what did I say? Homeschoolmama said that she’s probably wealthier (happier) than the financially wealthy people on that list. I find that a mind-boggling assumption. what was wrong with that?


129 posted on 12/15/2008 9:13:46 AM PST by Hildy
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To: marshmallow

Jewish people stealing from each other. Don’t they have a law against that kind of stuff.


132 posted on 12/15/2008 9:23:20 AM PST by McGruff
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To: Hildy
That being said, if you look at that list, so much was lost in OTHER FUNDS...and who invests in those other funds? Your neighbors, your cousins, maybe even you through your own brokers

If I might interrupt the food fight for just one moment, you have raised a good point. It is the "Funds of Funds" which have missed the boat on this issue and there is a school of thought which says that these are the guys which will be sued by the "victims" in order to recoup losses as Madoff has apparently also lost everything and is thus not a viable option for an attempt to recoup losses.

Funds like Tremont, Fairfield Greenwich, Banco Santander.....these are they guys who need to be fried. They are paid substantial sums of money to evaluate operators like Madoff and to invest wisely. As I mentioned to you in a previous post, there have been suspicions about Madoff's practices around for some time and the "other funds" chose to ignore them and go with Madoff.

So to summarize, the list undoubtedly contains people who've been unknowingly and unfairly bilked but there are also other players on the list who have a case to answer.

134 posted on 12/15/2008 9:29:06 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future"- Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

Huge Jewish exposure.....wow.


135 posted on 12/15/2008 9:29:46 AM PST by wardaddy (Monarchists for Palin 2012)
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To: marshmallow
A representative of Mr. Spielberg confirmed that the foundation has suffered losses on its investments with the Madoff firm. He said he didn't know the size of the losses and couldn't comment further, including on whether Mr. Spielberg had any of his own money invested with the Madoff firm." WSJ

Note to Spielberg and other Hollywood limo liberals : In the average Hollywood movie Mr. Madoff would be a dramatic hero. The cops and bean counters going after him would be seen as "not cool".

Spielberg - is there any chance that you've reaped what you've sown?

My guess is, "yes".

Sadly, so have the rest of us - with the creeps of the world emboldened by Hollywood's love of the underbelly criminal examples.

136 posted on 12/15/2008 9:34:37 AM PST by GOPJ (There are no "tough" issues - just "tough" political consequences.)
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To: marshmallow

Thyssen Family .. This is the one and same German corporate name that goes back to deep and dark Nazi prime contract work. Ironic jewish revenge.


137 posted on 12/15/2008 9:36:46 AM PST by Broker (COD Phlyer)
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To: FastCoyote

You take the cash infusions from new investors to give great returns to old investors who want redemptions and word spreads how well you are doing and the money keeps coming in until the obligations outpace the new cash coming in ....which is more likely in a downturn like we are in where folks are sitting on their cash.....or if the manager has been stealing too much.

We had a similar thing here in Nashville with only around 100 million and the perp eventually blew his head off. He had been known as a big philanthropist around here till then with his subterfuge.

Sorry to see the usual class envy/conspiracy/whatever on FR like these folks deserved to be fleeced.

Someone sets up an investments shoppe and one has reasonable expectations they will not lose all of your money....at least not through fraud....bad investments is more understandable.


138 posted on 12/15/2008 9:36:46 AM PST by wardaddy (Monarchists for Palin 2012)
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To: marshmallow

Did you also see today all the foreign investment funds that were involved. This was huge...and, again, many many victims. To start making this a class envy fight diminishes us. This is a fight for capitalism...right now, capitalism is losing.


139 posted on 12/15/2008 9:37:37 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Knight Templar

you get that sorta thing here sometimes

it’s impossible to know everything a money manage does with one’s investments

i’m 51, this sort of thing is a major part of my life, managing investments and I can tell anyone I don’t know exactly what this or that equities or income platform is doing right now

i try to watch their performance and track record and ratings

when one uses a private closed fund or group or hedge etc, then you are almost just along for the ride and banking on performance...which in this case was pure fraud


140 posted on 12/15/2008 9:40:39 AM PST by wardaddy (Monarchists for Palin 2012)
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