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(NY) Governor Paterson proposes 'Obesity Tax,' a tax on non-diet sodas
NY Daily News ^ | December 15, 2008 | GLENN BLAIN and KENNETH LOVETT

Posted on 12/15/2008 9:52:33 AM PST by presidio9

A can of Coke could soon cost New Yorkers more than just calories.

Gov. Paterson, as part of a $121 billion budget to be unveiled Tuesday, will propose an "obesity tax" of about 15% on nondiet drinks.

This means a Diet Coke might sell for a $1 - even as the same size bottle of its calorie-rich alter ego would go for $1.15.

Paterson's budget also calls for a 3% cut in education spending, a $620-a-year tuition hike at SUNY and a $600 increase at CUNY - and about $3.5 billion in health care cuts, a source said.

The Democratic governor will not call for a broad-based income tax boost, but he will push to restore the sales tax on clothing and footwear.

The drastic belt-tightening comes as lawmakers struggle to close a $15 billion deficit this year and next.

"It's painful to make these decisions," Paterson said Sunday.

State employees again will be asked to forgo their 3% raises next year and defer five days' pay until they leave their jobs, the source said. In all, Paterson will propose about $9 billion in cuts, $4 billion in new taxes and fees, and $1.5 billion in nonrecurring revenue, a second source said.

The so-called obesity tax would generate an estimated $404 million a year. Milk, juice, diet soda and bottled water would be exempt from the tax.

"I'll just buy less," said Victor Lopez, 55, of Manhattan, as he drank a Coke at a midtown Subway store.

"I don't like to buy Diet Coke," said Amaury Garcia, 16, who works at a flower shop in Penn Station. "I'll just not buy any sodas if it goes up."

Public health advocates welcomed news of the tax, saying it would help the fight against childhood obesity.

"Raising the price of this liquid candy will put children and teens on a path to a healthier diet," said Elie Ward of the American Academy of Pediatrics of New York State.

The Paterson administration also announced steps yesterday to expand the state's social services net, including a 30% increase in welfare payments over three years starting January 2010, increased money for food banks and expanded access to the state's Family Health Plus program.

Paterson also hopes to make it easier for people to enroll in Medicaid by eliminating face-to-face interviews and fingerprinting requirements.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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1 posted on 12/15/2008 9:52:35 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

NY needs a stupidity tax ... they could generate trillions from Manhattan alone.


2 posted on 12/15/2008 9:54:44 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: presidio9; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Darksheare; pissant; najida; r-q-tek86; blackie; ...

WHAT A CROCK OF CRAP...PING!!


3 posted on 12/15/2008 9:54:52 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: presidio9
Paterson also hopes to make it easier for people to enroll in Medicaid by eliminating face-to-face interviews and fingerprinting requirements.

Now there's a cost-cutting measure, for sure...

4 posted on 12/15/2008 9:55:00 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: presidio9

Can’t this guy SEE that people do not want more taxes?


5 posted on 12/15/2008 9:55:04 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: presidio9

Maybe they should do the tax on the other end...like a liposuction tax.


6 posted on 12/15/2008 9:55:35 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: presidio9

This article is so infused with liberalese, I don’t know where to start.


7 posted on 12/15/2008 9:55:57 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: presidio9
Is no one else wary of the nasty chemicals used to sweeten diet drinks?

I always have an unpleasant aftertaste if I try one of those.

8 posted on 12/15/2008 9:56:02 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: presidio9

Amazing...........and just yesterday I was asked why I never had any desire to move back to NY.


9 posted on 12/15/2008 9:56:06 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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To: presidio9

A tax on anyone with the last name of Paterson!


10 posted on 12/15/2008 9:56:23 AM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: presidio9

Especially ridiculous in light of health problems related to diet drinks.

Still waiting for a sudden outbreak of sanity...


11 posted on 12/15/2008 9:56:26 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: presidio9

Yes, he’d prefer everyone get diabetes from artificial sweeteners.


12 posted on 12/15/2008 9:57:08 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: 70th Division
Someone is showing him upside down charts!
13 posted on 12/15/2008 9:57:10 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 70th Division

The good news is that this won't be going national any time soon. There are still a lot of liberal politicians who have no intention of getting behind any obesity tax.

14 posted on 12/15/2008 9:58:47 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: presidio9

Yup........tax the people while they are down. Really helps the country. All they are doing is insuring their own salaries.


15 posted on 12/15/2008 9:58:55 AM PST by RC2
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To: Gabz
Amazing...........and just yesterday I was asked why I never had any desire to move back to NY.

As a refugee from the People's Demorkratik Worker's Paradise of New York, it is hard for me to imagine why someone would pose such a silly question...

16 posted on 12/15/2008 9:59:04 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: presidio9

“Lord, please save and deliver me from the do-gooders!”


17 posted on 12/15/2008 9:59:08 AM PST by JulienBenda (Youth-wasted on the young. Any doubters?)
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To: presidio9

Hmm...so we hassle merchants and tax soda, but not calorie-filled coffee drinks and sugary juice. Maybe we should tax fat slobs for offending my aesthetic sensibility as I walk down te street? Better yet, how about a tax on liberal stupidity?


18 posted on 12/15/2008 9:59:17 AM PST by Callahan
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To: presidio9

Funny... every fatso I see orders diet soda... like it somehow makes up for all the rest of their over eating.


19 posted on 12/15/2008 10:00:56 AM PST by Chet 99
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

IMO this kind of stuff is just arrogance on his part. He should consider himself lucky that he hasn’t inherited a weight problem.

Obviously the only fat he’s got is between his ears.


20 posted on 12/15/2008 10:01:06 AM PST by hoe_cake (" 'We the people' tell the government what to do, it doesn't tell us." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dallas59

A tax on blind politicians to pay for their coke spoons and hotel trysts.


21 posted on 12/15/2008 10:01:41 AM PST by Callahan
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To: dashing doofus

LOL!!! It was posed to me by someone who was born and raised out in the country and thought it was just so marvelous that I had actually been born and raised in NYC. Could not understand why I would give that up to live in the middle of nowhere.


22 posted on 12/15/2008 10:02:18 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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To: hoosierham
Is no one else wary of the nasty chemicals used to sweeten diet drinks?

Has it occured to anyone else but me that up until now diet and regular soft drinks have always cost EXACTLY the same? I'm no chemist, but I'm guessing a synthetic sweetener costs a bit more than corn syrp. After water, those are the primary ingredients in either beverage. This means that coke and pepsi drinkers have been subsidizing diet coke and diet pepsi drinkers ever since the latter were invented.

23 posted on 12/15/2008 10:03:58 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: Chet 99

This bloated tick in my brother’s office brings a little carton of Ben & Jerry’s for lunch everyday and then complains about how he misses the bigger cartons he used to eat before he went on a diet.


24 posted on 12/15/2008 10:04:46 AM PST by Callahan
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

How to end childhood obesity:
Get the kids off their fat rear ends, get them away from the computer, the Nintendo and the TV, and get them OUTSIDE, running, playing sports, climbing (short, Federally-approved;) trees, bicycling, rollerskating, ETCETERA! Parents need to say “No Junior, you CAN’T have a Wii for Christmas, but you CAN have a bicycle!


25 posted on 12/15/2008 10:05:24 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: presidio9
Oh yes, everyone should be drinking those chemicals in the artificial sweeteners.
26 posted on 12/15/2008 10:05:38 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: hoosierham

Aspertame makes me feel strange. The Splenda stuff I like however.


27 posted on 12/15/2008 10:08:35 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: presidio9

Obviously it is the State budget that needs to go on a diet. No can do, so instead they tell taxpayers that they are too fat, and need to tax them for their own good.


28 posted on 12/15/2008 10:09:12 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: presidio9

Obviously it is the State budget that needs to go on a diet. No can do, so instead they tell taxpayers that they are too fat, and need to tax them for their own good.


29 posted on 12/15/2008 10:09:19 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: Graybeard58

Don’t you understand? The serfs themselves are incapable of judging what is good and proper. Therefore, the benevolent lords and masters of New York must help the serfs make the right choices.

And to think there are FReepers who think “Bible thumpers” are the greatest threat to our liberty!


30 posted on 12/15/2008 10:09:28 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Merry Christmas!)
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To: presidio9

My elected officials in Albany will soon be debating the appropriate taxation levels on Dr. Pepper vs. Diet Coke. It really has come to this.

If they can take a break from arguing the merits of taxation on OJ with or without pulp, I’d really like them to get their collective S@#$ together. Soon.


31 posted on 12/15/2008 10:13:03 AM PST by Made In The USA (Liberalism is a sign of stupidity.)
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To: Frank_2001

You are right about that: An excessive tax on computer games wouldn’t bother me one bit, and it would do more for childhood obesity than adding 10 cents to the price of a can of soda. Ten cents is about as valuable to kids today as a penny was to us thirty years ago.


32 posted on 12/15/2008 10:18:08 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: CitizenUSA; cardinal4

I don’t live in NYC, so this doesn’t apply to me. If the city can tax those who drink regular pop because it leads to obesity, shouldn’t there be an offset for people who drink regular Coke but also exercise regularly? The exercisers would have to keep detailed records and have their gauleiter sign off on the weekly exercise log so they can get a tax break.


33 posted on 12/15/2008 10:18:38 AM PST by Ax
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To: Ax

Or someone who has a physical job.


34 posted on 12/15/2008 10:20:29 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Red_Devil 232

SNL was actually funny for a change. The Patterson guy was just too funny


35 posted on 12/15/2008 10:22:57 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: hoosierham
They'll add on another tax to subsidize the Health Problems that will arise.

Then NY will sue the seetener companies...Then they will increase taxes to pay for the suit.

Then the drug companies will come up with a new drug. Etc, etc, etc...

36 posted on 12/15/2008 10:23:52 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: presidio9

THARRRR SHE BLOWS! Man we got to render him down. There is a lot of biofuel in that belly. The liposuction guy could make a fortune.


37 posted on 12/15/2008 10:25:40 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Gabz

I worked in NYC for 19 years, and lived on LI. While I think the city has some great benefits, like shops, shows, museums and retaurants, the rules and regulations combined with the insane taxes (which are only going to get much, much worse, given their deficit projections and the massive layoffs in the financial services industry) made it easy for me to leave.

We visit if we want, but are then happy to return to our slower, more friendly lifestyle.


38 posted on 12/15/2008 10:26:05 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: presidio9

Just another ploy to steal a few more coins from the taxpayers. How bout letting insurance companies charge higher premiums to people that are obese—a much more fair way of dealing with the epidemic of overfed people. Insurance companies already charge higher rates for smokers. Why not obesity or homosexual behavior? Homosexuals are the #1 vector for the spread of infectious diseases as well as AIDS breeding antibiotic resistant bacteria.


39 posted on 12/15/2008 10:27:54 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: presidio9

Living in NY just plain sucks all around.
I’d really like to know where all the lottery money goes to. Doesn’t look like hard times in the lottery line.


40 posted on 12/15/2008 10:29:23 AM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: presidio9

So, lets go to N.H. for cheap booze and some cheap R.C. Cola?


41 posted on 12/15/2008 10:29:26 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: mgc1122

Now thats the funniest thing I have read,,,, well,, in the past few minutes anyway!


42 posted on 12/15/2008 10:29:44 AM PST by Airwinger (Semper Fi, Time to use that motto for our Constitution.)
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To: 70th Division
Can’t this guy SEE that people do not want more taxes?

Problem is, the sheeple continue to vote for more taxes, whether they really want them or not.

43 posted on 12/15/2008 10:30:43 AM PST by Marathoner (The dream: 1-20-2013, hearing "I, Sarah Heath Palin, do solumnly swear...")
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To: mgc1122
NY needs a stupidity tax

They already have on. It's called a "lottery".

44 posted on 12/15/2008 10:30:49 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: presidio9

“Raising the price of this liquid candy will put children and teens on a path to a healthier diet,” said Elie Ward of the American Academy of Pediatrics of New York State.

No, it won’t, they’ll just buy it in NJ or CT. Ever heard of prohibition? Putz.


45 posted on 12/15/2008 10:31:43 AM PST by PrairieRoot (Here's hoping Global Warning extends the hunting and logging seasons.)
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To: neverdem

calorie tax ping


46 posted on 12/15/2008 10:34:15 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: 70th Division

>> Can’t this guy SEE that people do not want more taxes?

Dude, you gotta think like a Liberal then it will make sense — so I’ve been told.


47 posted on 12/15/2008 10:37:10 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: hoosierham

I am, I always feel a little nauseous after having a diet pop.


48 posted on 12/15/2008 10:40:14 AM PST by FromShadow
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To: Callahan
I copied and pasted this from a FR thread quite a while ago.

If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street

If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat

If you get too cold, I’ll tax the heat

If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet

(Cos I’m the taxman)

GEORGE HARRISON

49 posted on 12/15/2008 10:42:08 AM PST by mia
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To: presidio9
Is he going to tax the cancer that the artificial sweetener give you?
50 posted on 12/15/2008 10:43:37 AM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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