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To: Rome2000; 4Speed; denydenydeny; nathanbedford
These are the groups that didn't vote before, the groups the founders warned us not to enfranchise, the groups that are responsible for socialist control of the federal and a majority of state governments. THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS UNTIL THE REPUBLIC FALLS AND THEY ARE STRIPPED OF THE RIGHT TO VOTE

Well, I agree that such an improvement in the quality of the voters would solve the problem.

But that does not explain why, when the existing voters do the right thing, that nothing changes. Let's pick abolishing the Department of Education as an example.

I choose that because the Department of Education is new, it's conspicuously useless and wasteful, and it does not educate a single child.

More importantly HUGE ELECTORAL MAJORITIES have voted TWICE - in 1984, and again in 1994, for candidates sworn to its abolition.

The nature of the GOP 1994 revolution was so amazing, and I think, because of our disappointments recently, we don't think about it in the right way.

The Democrats were swept from power in a popular avalanche. The Republicans had over 230 House members. 54 Democrats were tossed out. Most importantly, the incoming majority had SIGNED A PLEDGE to abolish the Department of Education.

So, my question is, why is it still in existence?

Yes, the Democrats are corrupt and beholden to teacher unions. Yes, too many people vote, and too many are enfranchised.

BUT THIS DOES NOT EXPLAIN THE SURVIVAL OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

This small slice of a much bigger pie suggests that the People cannot change the growth of government, EVEN BY WINNING ELECTIONS WITH A CLEAR MANDATE.

If electing conservatives to the majority and giving them clear instructions is insufficient, then the whole voting thing isn't going to work, ever, and we need to look elsewhere for positive change.

50 posted on 12/16/2008 7:53:03 PM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: Jim Noble
The nature of the GOP 1994 revolution was so amazing, and I think, because of our disappointments recently, we don't think about it in the right way.....the incoming majority had SIGNED A PLEDGE to abolish the Department of Education.

For some reason people seem to be certain that abolition of the Department of Education was part of the Contract With America. It wasn't.

52 posted on 12/16/2008 9:15:34 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Banish Merry Christmas. Get ready for Mad Max.."-Daniel Henninger)
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To: Jim Noble
people are going to vote their pocketbooks....like the lovely people of Iowa and their grain subsidies...... you have so many collecting welfare or medicaid or medicare or SS or a military pension or a govt pension......

all these people collecting and then throw in the people presently working for the govt and you can see that cutting govt is never going to happen unless some catastrophic event takes place and the federal govt is forced to cut severely...

58 posted on 12/16/2008 10:44:56 PM PST by cherry
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To: Jim Noble

I always thought the GOP 1994 revolution was due to the corruption in the Dem Party - mainly the scandal involving the congressional bank mess.


74 posted on 12/17/2008 5:09:44 PM PST by ncpatriot
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