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China increases US treasury holdings (from $587bn to $652.9bn: up $65.9bn in a month)
China Daily ^ | 12/17/08 | Xin Zhimin

Posted on 12/17/2008 12:43:43 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

China increases US treasury holdings

By Xin Zhiming (China Daily)

Updated: 2008-12-17 07:14

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China increased its holdings of US treasury securities by $65.9 billion in October, consolidating its place as the No 1 holder of American debt, according to the Treasury's latest report on international capital flows.

It was China's largest monthly increase this year, pushing the country's total holdings to $652.9 billion, compared with $587 billion at the end of September, when it replaced Japan to become the top holder of US debt.

The continual increases in US debt holdings in recent months have triggered fierce domestic debate, as the country has channeled almost a third of its $2 trillion of foreign exchange reserves into US treasury securities.

Wei Weixian, economist with the University of International Business and Economics, believes it "is a fairly acceptable option".

With US treasuries recently gaining investor favor, their yields have been on the decline; but in the long term, they are still a relatively safe investment for China, Wei said.

"Despite the financial crisis, the US economy remains the strongest, providing back-up for the treasury securities," he added.

He also pointed out that China does not have many options to deploy its massive amounts of foreign exchange reserves.

For example, China pulled $200 billion out of its foreign exchange reserves to set up China Investment Corporation (CIC) to diversify investment, but CIC has incurred heavy losses in its investment in the US private equity firm Blackstone due to the tumbling international financial markets. CIC has since said it would be more cautious in investment abroad.

Guo Tianyong, economist with the Central University of Finance and Economics, also believes the US treasury debt has relatively low risks and good liquidity.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; cic; sovereigndebt; tbill; usdebt
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It was China's largest monthly increase this year, pushing the country's total holdings to $652.9 billion, compared with $587 billion at the end of September, when it replaced Japan to become the top holder of US debt.

Nice work, Hank! /sarc

1 posted on 12/17/2008 12:43:43 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/17/2008 12:44:03 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Again, they got screwed. In Oct and Nov, the USD has been at its highest level exchange rates-wise compared to all major currencies barring the JPY. They’d have done better to park their funds in EUR or GBP or even AUD I guess. All these currencies are recovering the ground they’d lost earlier.

I guess that explains why they’re looking to devalue the CNY against the USD in recent times - to regain some notional value in respect to the CNY.


3 posted on 12/17/2008 12:50:07 AM PST by MimirsWell (Ceterum censeo Pakistaninem esse delendam)
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To: MimirsWell
Again, they got screwed. In Oct and Nov, the USD has been at its highest level exchange rates-wise compared to all major currencies barring the JPY. They’d have done better to park their funds in EUR or GBP or even AUD I guess. All these currencies are recovering the ground they’d lost earlier.

Maybe China has goals other than making money with their foreign currency reserves. Just a thought. Great Powers aren't private investors.

4 posted on 12/17/2008 12:55:09 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Outstanding.

The United States is owned by Communists.


5 posted on 12/17/2008 1:05:27 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Alter Kaker
Par for the Commies.

About last June, '07 they saw the euro at historical highs and decided that was where to put their bucks.

yitbos

6 posted on 12/17/2008 1:06:30 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: Alter Kaker

Your right! They don’t need to make money for what they are looking for! Pretty soon they will have us where they want us!


7 posted on 12/17/2008 1:06:40 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: TigerLikesRooster

China and Japan are going to be ROOTED if America ever defaults on its loans...

...and they are going to be very, very upset, too!


8 posted on 12/17/2008 1:08:50 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

>China and Japan are going to be ROOTED if America ever defaults on its loans...<


Default????? That’s something third world countries do. It could never happen......ummmm.....errrrr....ahhhhh....ooops.


9 posted on 12/17/2008 1:51:08 AM PST by jsh3180
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To: Alter Kaker

China’s grand goals aside, they themselves need to survive as a regime. Bad investments will leave them little money for other grandiose schemes.

The Chinese have a herd mentality. They flock to where the crowds are and they get burnt in the process. Very often, they decide to make a switch when it is too late. The CIC could have taken off much earlier. They decided to create it only when the stock markets were already very high. Same with pretty much everything else. Which is why they’re not great innovators. They hate risk but risk finds ways to materialize for them.


10 posted on 12/17/2008 1:51:56 AM PST by MimirsWell (Ceterum censeo Pakistaninem esse delendam)
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To: jsh3180

Could happen in a different way. What if the Chinese went to war with an American ally. A very effective way of keeping the Chinese god on the leash is to tell them “ok well! if you invade say Taiwan, we will not only come and liberate them but we will make you pick up the tabs for our war effort against you as well as grant the Taiwanese as much post-war reconstruction funds as they want you’ll bear the costs.

For China, no war is worth a Trillion dollars :-)


11 posted on 12/17/2008 1:56:57 AM PST by MimirsWell (Ceterum censeo Pakistaninem esse delendam)
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god = dog


12 posted on 12/17/2008 1:57:40 AM PST by MimirsWell (Ceterum censeo Pakistaninem esse delendam)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What a marvelous example of the adage:

‘When you owe the bank a million dollars and cannot repay it, you are in trouble, but when you owe the bank BILLIONS of dollars and cannot repay it then the bank is in trouble”

They have loaned us so much money at this point they have no choice but to either keep lending us or else watch all they lent us before become worthless.


13 posted on 12/17/2008 3:03:43 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: TigerLikesRooster
the top holder of US debt.   Nice work, Hank! /sarc

Sounds like you're saying that it's bad to sell T-bills to China, that China shouldn't own more than others, and that it's Hank's fault.  If that's what you're saying, why?

14 posted on 12/17/2008 4:08:02 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Looking back, maybe we should have let them remain a closed society...


15 posted on 12/17/2008 4:26:27 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: 101voodoo
they have no choice but to either keep lending us or else watch all they lent us before become worthless.

In the first place, China does have choices and they won't throw 'good money after bad' if it doesn't suit them.  In the second place, T-bills are the safest place for money; you know it, I know it, and they know it. 

16 posted on 12/17/2008 4:35:27 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

-~~Ludwig Von Mises

17 posted on 12/17/2008 4:52:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It’s only paper...............


18 posted on 12/17/2008 5:19:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: MimirsWell

Perhaps the entire increase in value is accounted for by the falling interest rates, the effect of which easily dwarfs exchange rate changes. But that’s a bubble too . . .


19 posted on 12/17/2008 5:43:59 AM PST by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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To: expat_panama

What other choices do they really have? Let’s face it, if America really tanks and defaults then the paper held by the Chinese and others is worthless.

My analogy is good and I’ll stand by it. We owe the Chinese so much money at this point that a default on our part would ruin them and they know it. They have no choice but to stay with us AND even buy MORE paper in order to keep their previous purchases from becoming worthless.


20 posted on 12/17/2008 6:47:39 AM PST by 101voodoo
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