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Pro-Life Rick Warren to Give Invocation at Obama Inauguration
CBNnews ^ | 12/17/08 | David Brody

Posted on 12/17/2008 10:53:08 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: MrB
Your quote about the bible sounds exactly like something I read the other day about Rob Bell, another Emergent Church guy, although he says he isn't.

From the article -

Indeed, Bell urges readers to test his own text. The Bible itself, he writes, is a book that constantly must be wrestled with and re-interpreted. He dismisses claims that "Scripture alone" will answer all questions. Bible interpretation is colored by historical context, the reader's bias and current realities, he says. The more you study the Bible, the more questions it raises.

"It is not possible to simply do what the Bible says," Bell writes. "We must first make decisions about what it means at this time, in this place, for these people."

-snip-

Bell also shakes up traditional evangelical beliefs. While calling Christ's way "the best possible way to live," Bell writes Jesus did not claim one religion is better than another when he said he was "the way, the truth and the life." Rather, he writes, "his way is the way to the depth of reality."

As a follower of Jesus, Bell says, he is free to claim the truth wherever he finds it.

"One of the lies is that truth only resides in this particular community or that particular thought system," Bell says. "I affirm the truth anywhere in any religious system, in any worldview. If it's true, it belongs to God."

61 posted on 12/17/2008 11:45:24 AM PST by agrace
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To: NormsRevenge
Rick warren needs to be shunned as an apostate.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

62 posted on 12/17/2008 11:47:11 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: agrace
I've become very "discerning" as of late.

It doesn't take me long to understand where someone is coming from and what the origins of that viewpoint are.

This Bell guy, obviously, has been polluted by deconstructionist and postmodern worldviews. These worldviews are definitely not biblical, and this is why he opposes the authority of the Bible.

These worldviews are those that are adhered to by the left, the secular socialist left, and have no place in a Christian's worldview.

Most likely, Bell is an unwitting tool of Satan for the destruction of Christ's church and leading His sheep astray. It is pretty obvious that he is "speaking from the viewpoint of the world."

1 John 4 - False Prophets
Especially vs 4-6

63 posted on 12/17/2008 11:52:43 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: PurpleMan
If Obama was not a professing decades old Christian I would agree with you but sorry sanctimonious "the Bible should change with the times" ignoramus but that is a perpetual theme throughout the Old and New Testaments. But you are "worldly" and Christians should accept professing Christians who don't repent making the whole theology useless which leads to a weak Church.

Good grief ever read Revelations on what God does to "ministers"/Churches who are flaccid when it comes to those professing being a "brother" that refuses to repent? Apparently not. God does not won't a weak Church filled with "believers" thumbing their nose at God he wants believers (Obama professes to be one) that actually follow His Word.
64 posted on 12/17/2008 11:52:57 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: agrace

“Bell writes Jesus did not claim one religion is better than another when he said he was “the way, the truth and the life.”

What part of “NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH ME” does Rob Bell not understand? Does he have that statement explained away as not meaning what it clearly means too?


65 posted on 12/17/2008 11:54:40 AM PST by Cecily
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To: MrB
I suspected this of Warren, but wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Dear mercy...this is spineless.

66 posted on 12/17/2008 11:54:51 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: obamaisandrogynous

TV preachers are just all in it for the money and fame these days. They have no shame.


67 posted on 12/17/2008 11:56:28 AM PST by dandiegirl
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To: NormsRevenge

The only things the Left wants from Christians are votes and tax dollars.

They’ve done a good job of infiltrating churches, especially youth groups. Global warming, social justice, etc.

“Jesus was a Liberal.”

It’s a shame.


68 posted on 12/17/2008 11:57:05 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
They’ve done a good job of infiltrating churches, especially youth groups.

Look into "family integrated churches". They are islands of refuge from this liberal rot that's going on in a lot of churches.

69 posted on 12/17/2008 11:58:12 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Osage Orange
Warren is lukewarm

And the Bible takes a definite position on that.

I was just reading about 'ministers' like Warren in my devotional today...

70 posted on 12/17/2008 12:00:42 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Maybe he plans to publicly rebuke the Anointed One..


71 posted on 12/17/2008 12:03:52 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: rollo tomasi

“won’t”= want (Regurgitated the word “but” if the first paragraph as well)


72 posted on 12/17/2008 12:05:19 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: NormsRevenge; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; F15Eagle
Pro-life pastor Rick Warren

"Pro-Rick Warren pastor Rick Warren"

There, fixed it.

73 posted on 12/17/2008 12:07:17 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Sorry, all out of free Brightsides and Lazamatazes. If you took two, please return one.)
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To: Prole

“Doublespeak”


74 posted on 12/17/2008 12:07:27 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: PurpleMan

No how Catholic of me. I believe that every child conceived has the right to live. It appears Warren does not and by your support of this farce, maybe you too. May you and Obama make a happy threesome.


75 posted on 12/17/2008 12:13:19 PM PST by jrooney
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To: rollo tomasi

“If your brother sins against you...” Has BHO “sinned” against Warren. I dunno?

“..not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler...” Which one of these is BHO?


76 posted on 12/17/2008 12:14:52 PM PST by PurpleMan
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Pro-life pastor Rick Warren will give the invocation at President-Elect Barack Obama’s inauguration. It makes a whole lot of sense. Even though Warren and Obama disagree on the life issue, they do see eye to eye on many social justice issues.

Why does this not surprise me?

77 posted on 12/17/2008 12:16:18 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Osage Orange

Warren’s Christianity and his Saddleback Church strike me somewhat as “The Church of What’s Happenin’ Now.” I don’t get the real spiritual Christian connection from him and get the impression he’d compromise Christian principles to get a bigger church. Maybe it’s just me, and I would prefer to be wrong about him.


78 posted on 12/17/2008 12:21:55 PM PST by henkster (Welcome to the Union of Socialist States of America. You are ordered to enjoy your stay.)
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To: PurpleMan
Where did I cherry pick at? Are you saying faith and repentance is cherry picking? There are multiple verses where believers are COMMANDED to judge other believers. Hardly cherry picking.

Show me where Jesus says "Hey Apostles, see to it that anyone who PROFESSES My name and endorses murdering little ones for convenience, bearing false witness, encouraging men to fish for brown trout, manipulates his fellow man, and steals is endorsed to the fullest extent. After all Christianity main purpose is to not only love the sinner but be extremely accepting and tolerant of sin when it comes to people professing My name."
79 posted on 12/17/2008 12:27:48 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: MrB

Not meaning to paint with a broad brush, but this seeker-friendly emergent church social gospel stuff is rampant these days, especially among the so-called mega-churches with super-pastors. It’s a new denomination called The Postmodern Church of Laodicea.

Watered down Christianity isn’t just for the old mainlines anymore.


80 posted on 12/17/2008 12:29:48 PM PST by agrace
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