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Britons vent scorn at U.S. after 24 days in N.C. jails
Raleigh News and Observer ^ | 12/17/08 | Kristin Collins

Posted on 12/17/2008 5:53:16 PM PST by tkocur

Garry Latcham thought he was carrying a harmless gift for his North Carolina host when he boarded a plane from his native England in November, planning to spend four days hunting in rural Person County.

Instead, the gifts -- two silencers intended for air guns -- landed Latcham and his traveling companion in jail for nearly a month, after customs agents mistook the men for terrorists. Federal officials now say that the men were vacationers with no criminal plot. But they were still forced to plead guilty to felonies, because they failed to declare the $55 silencers on their customs forms.

The two working-class men, both of whom have young families, ran up thousands of dollars in legal bills and spent 24 days in crowded county jails before being allowed to return home last week.

"We came for a holiday of a lifetime, and we got one," Latcham said this week from his home in England. "I will never come back to the United States, ever."

He gave only a short interview, saying he wanted a contribution to his legal fees before speaking at length.

In a news release last week, U.S. Attorney George E.B. Holding said the prosecution of Latcham and his friend, George Hope, "highlights the importance of the Customs Declaration Form individuals must fill out when they enter the United States and of the laws and rules governing travel between countries."

Their lawyer, Doug Kingsbery of Raleigh, said the British men's treatment was unnecessarily harsh. Even the federal judge who heard the case thought the men should be released from jail, and questioned the point of the prosecution...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: North Carolina; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; customs; holidayers; silencer; stupidity
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1 posted on 12/17/2008 5:53:16 PM PST by tkocur
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To: tkocur

I’m obviously showing my ignorance, but a silencer for an air gun?


2 posted on 12/17/2008 5:55:14 PM PST by marron
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To: tkocur

You’d think that they could simply check his religion, and then move on.


3 posted on 12/17/2008 5:55:59 PM PST by BobL
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To: tkocur

I don’t think I would try to hide a silencer when entering another country through customs.


4 posted on 12/17/2008 5:56:53 PM PST by allmost
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To: tkocur
OK, I'll bite - WTF does someone need a silencer for a Crossman pellet gun?


5 posted on 12/17/2008 5:57:30 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's be proactive and start the impeachment NOW.)
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To: marron

http://www.gamo-airguns.com/

The latest thing.


6 posted on 12/17/2008 5:57:41 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: tkocur

I thought they were big on gun control over there. You’d think they would be very understanding.


7 posted on 12/17/2008 5:57:48 PM PST by Rocky
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To: tkocur
Since England has banned air guns (yes - they have banned BB guns) - wonder how/where they got silencers for them...?
8 posted on 12/17/2008 5:58:43 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: marron

Good question, here is some interesting info:

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-BB-Gun-Silencer


9 posted on 12/17/2008 6:01:14 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: 2banana

http://www.gamousa.com/catalog.aspx?product=234

Its called a dampener, but ‘m sure big gov can call it a “silencer” on an airgun....sigh.


10 posted on 12/17/2008 6:01:47 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: 2banana
Probably leftover production from when airguns were legal in the UK. My .50 cal airgun makes some noise but I've never needed a silencer.
www.quackenbushairguns.com
11 posted on 12/17/2008 6:02:58 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: tkocur

Maybe one of them will run for president.


12 posted on 12/17/2008 6:04:17 PM PST by nufsed
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To: marron
I’m obviously showing my ignorance, but a silencer for an air gun?

Yes, fairly cheap modern air rifles can launch a .177 caliber pellet at a muzzle velocity in excess of 1,200 feet per second.

That makes noise.

Gamo markets the "Whisper", which has a built-in suppressor.

13 posted on 12/17/2008 6:04:30 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: tkocur
God forbid the prosecutor use his/her brain...
14 posted on 12/17/2008 6:07:51 PM PST by DB
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To: elkfersupper

I’m no gun expert but that sounds like a full fledged weapon.


15 posted on 12/17/2008 6:08:28 PM PST by DB
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To: tkocur

The scorn is well deserved. However, at least we yanks can have guns. We also spit at Sharia law.


16 posted on 12/17/2008 6:08:47 PM PST by Da Coyote
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However, at least we yanks can have guns. We also spit at Sharia law.

Good for us. These men were treated shamefully.

17 posted on 12/17/2008 6:15:48 PM PST by Drew68
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To: tkocur
Only in the "Land of the Free" are silencers considered a big hairy deal. You don't need a federal background check and a $200 tax stamp to own one in the UK like you do in the US, and airguns aren't illegal there. At the bottom of this thread is a good summary of what's allowed in the UK from a UK citizen.
18 posted on 12/17/2008 6:15:55 PM PST by Wierzbowski
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To: DB
I’m no gun expert but that sounds like a full fledged weapon.

In the hands of the right rifleman, yes indeed.

Only at short range.

19 posted on 12/17/2008 6:16:42 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: tkocur

“highlights the importance of the Customs Declaration Form individuals must fill out when they enter the United States and of the laws and rules governing travel between countries.”
____________________________________________

I declare everything...

The tea...

The Cadbury’s chocolate...

The books and toys...

The stuffed animals...

Only ignorance gone to seed would begin to think part of a weapon could get through customs...

Returning Americans and others are constantly warned...

“if you dont declare it and it is found...you get fine

At the least...”

This is entirely their own fault...


20 posted on 12/17/2008 6:17:25 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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