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American guns and the war next door
Reuters-UK ^
| 18 dec 08
| Bernd Debusmann
Posted on 12/18/2008 1:10:51 PM PST by rellimpank
WASHINGTON, Dec 18 (Reuters) - Last year, around 2,500 Mexicans died in the twin wars drug cartels are waging against each other and against the Mexican state, using weapons smuggled in from the United States. In the first 11 months of this year, the death toll was 5,367, according to the Mexican attorney general. Next year?
There is no end in sight. At least two of the lethal ingredients in the toxic brew that fuels Mexico's ever-widening violence are unlikely to change: lax American gun laws and a Mexican border that barely controls north-south traffic. On many of the crossing points along the 2,000-mile frontier, travellers coming in from the United States, by car or on foot, are routinely waved through without even having to show identity papers.
Weak Mexican border controls rarely feature in official or academic reports on a problem that has prompted some experts and U.S. publications to wonder whether Mexico is a "failing state". That's the headline over a cover story on Mexico in the latest edition of the business magazine Forbes. Mexican officials reject the label.
(Excerpt) Read more at uk.reuters.com ...
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; mexicanborder; rkba
--last sentence makes sense--
To: rellimpank
What they need is MORE guns. Then the folks won’t be intimidated by those pesky cartels
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:13:37 PM PST
by
devistate one four
(Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
To: rellimpank
Lets see... The Mexican gangs are breaking the drug laws with extreme prejudice but if only guns were illegal in the US the Mexican gangs wouldn't have access to guns and Mexico would be a peaceful place...
Riiggghttt.... How stupid do you have to be to buy this crap???
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:16:34 PM PST
by
DB
To: rellimpank
So because Mexicans are incapable of handling liberty Americans must lose theirs?
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:16:55 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
("Mrs. Claus is a very lucky woman, sir.")
To: rellimpank
Mexican gangs are well equipped with full auto firearms. The “average joe” in the US CANNOT BUY THOSE. So the US CANNOT be the source (unless they are being stolen from the US military, which is highly doubtful). The drug cartels have connections with the far East, near East, the Russian Mafia, any of which DOES have access to full auto firearms, and will readily smuggle them to the Mexican gangs.
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:24:19 PM PST
by
Wonder Warthog
( The Hog of Steel)
To: rellimpank
Yep - the Mexicans should build a fence.
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:26:29 PM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: BenLurkin
For those that want to take that liberty away, they should make sure this is an issue they are willing to die for.
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:37:43 PM PST
by
Gator113
("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
To: rellimpank
Notice the moron author is writing for Reuters-UK. The spineless moron has already lost his firearms rights and wants to inflict that stupidity here. Frankly, STFU.
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:40:21 PM PST
by
Myrddin
To: rellimpank
Yep, it's the United States fault, always. I just bet a ton of law abiding citizens are buying 8,000 dollar barrets and selling them to mexicans at gun shows all over the country. Why, it's the favorite weapon of choice for gang bangers in LA, dontcha know. I say we strike a deal with the Mexican government. You keep your criminals and their drugs on your side of the border, and we'll keep our guns here at home.
To: DB
Lets see... The Mexican gangs are breaking the drug laws with extreme prejudice but if only guns were illegal in the US the Mexican gangs wouldn't have access to guns and Mexico would be a peaceful place... Riiggghttt.... How stupid do you have to be to buy this crap???
Well said.
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:45:48 PM PST
by
RJL
To: BenLurkin
So these thugs are killing each other and that’s a bad thing?? The thought process of a leftist provides more laughs than the Marx brothers.
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:46:43 PM PST
by
Oldpuppymax
(AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
To: DuncanWaring
“Yep - the Mexicans should build a fence”
Oh man, LOL! That was great....
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posted on
12/18/2008 1:48:14 PM PST
by
Robbin
To: rellimpank
Hogwash! We gringos have been accused of many things - but instigating Mexicans to kill each other? That's a laugh! And our Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with the violence in Mexico.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
12/18/2008 2:03:54 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: rellimpank
Last year, around 2,500 Mexicans died in the twin wars drug cartels are waging against each other and against the Mexican state, using weapons smuggled in from the United States. In the first 11 months of this year, the death toll was 5,367, according to the Mexican attorney general. Next year? Cry me a river. Last year, more than 3000 American citizens were murdered by illegal invaders from Mexico; many thousands more American citizens were victimized by Mexican illegal invaders during assaults, robberies, rapes, identity theft, etc., etc.
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posted on
12/18/2008 2:06:36 PM PST
by
meadsjn
(Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
To: Wonder Warthog
Wonder Warthog said:
"The drug cartels have connections with the far East, near East, the Russian Mafia, any of which DOES have access to full auto firearms,..." I would imagine that Mexican drug cartels have the resources to equip a machine shop. Most of the parts to make a full-auto M4 are probably available world-wide over the Internet.
Many of the smuggled drugs require an entire growing season to create. Machine guns can be made in hours.
Anti-gunners live in a fantasy world in which only governments would be able to create weapons.
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posted on
12/18/2008 2:10:52 PM PST
by
William Tell
(RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
To: rellimpank
lax American gun laws and a Mexican border that barely controls north-south traffic. Lax AMERICAN gun laws? This moron is smoking the drapes. The gangs are armed with MILITARY hardware, courtesy of mexico's "army".
Bernd Debusmann, is an idiot.
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posted on
12/18/2008 2:15:48 PM PST
by
ScreamingFist
(Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
To: rellimpank
“using weapons smuggled in from the United States”
Prove it Reuters.
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posted on
12/18/2008 2:32:54 PM PST
by
caver
(Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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