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1 posted on 12/20/2008 11:58:20 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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My wife would have gone over the counter and kicked the salespersons rear end. Then taken a phone.
Have your husband do it for ya little lady just wouldn’t cut it.


2 posted on 12/20/2008 12:01:30 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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I’m guessing here, are there laws and regulations in Australia that make it extremely hard for a service provider to simply cut off cell phone service to deadbeat customers?

Try renting an apartment in a jurisdiction awash in “tenant’s rights” laws. You have to practically give a semen sample.


3 posted on 12/20/2008 12:02:40 PM PST by sinanju
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Try, just TRY to get a non-prepaid cellphone in THIS country if you have no job and crappy credit.

This is not misogyny folks.... just business.


4 posted on 12/20/2008 12:07:27 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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From the business point of view, you are asking for ‘unlimited’ credit when you buy a cell phone (unless you specifically purchase pre-paid minutes). It would appear that the cell phone company has a vested interest in knowing how you intend to pay back the ‘loan’ he is about to give you.

Depending upon the persons, a cell phone plan for a family can run from under $100/month to several thousand per month. If a housewife or stay-at-home mother has no income, and has chosen not to declare herself married; such that her credit is tied to her spouse’s - I see no other choice for the Cell phone provider.

If he gives cell phones to mothers, who have no income, no credit score and no verifiable means of income (because they have chosen not to marry, or legally establish a claim to the family income) - then they have to be fair and give similar plans to anyone who should come and ask for a cell phone - without regard to establishing their ability to pay either.

This means that people who do pay for thier plans, will now be forced to pay more to make up for those people with phones who chose not to pay their bills. And, if you are free to get a phone and someone else gets the bill - what’s to stop wide-spread abuse of this system?


5 posted on 12/20/2008 12:07:36 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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Comments!!!!! Holy crap. If I paid my wife what she is worth as a stay at home mom, I couldn't afford to hire her. She not only takes care of my son, but she takes care of me. She keeps the house clean, she's a taxi driver for our son and his friends. She's a gourmet cook. (We've been married over 15 years and I have NEVER had a bad meal.) I remember back when I saw something on the Internet estimating how much moms should make. Like I said, I couldn't afford to pay her. For anyone saying it's not a job because she's not getting paid, is an idiot. Probably a liberal and a femi-nazi to boot. There will probably be over a 1000 posts about this article and I'm glad to have gotten in earlier on it. Thank 2ndDivisionVet for finding and posting this. I'm very interested in what different comments will be made.
6 posted on 12/20/2008 12:08:44 PM PST by antiunion person (Ban the Brady Law. Save the 2nd Amendment from the liberals)
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Just a thought ... Why limit this to phones?

I want a new car/boat/airplane. I’m alledgely a mother, and have no verifiable income and no credit score.

If you deny me getting this, you are a bigot. If I don’t pay for it, you either go bankrupt, or you must charge those who can afford this item more to make up for my fraud.

What do you have in Blue?


9 posted on 12/20/2008 12:12:50 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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I smell BS!

Whats the hidden agenda they are trying to promote?


10 posted on 12/20/2008 12:17:53 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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Guess Mom has no means of making the payments. If she is going to use the husband’s income to qualify, he’s got to okay it. Finally something makes sense.

My wife didn’t work for years yet had stellar credit and had her choice of credit cards. She had double my limits. Yep, I paid the monthly bill. Seemed weird to me.


11 posted on 12/20/2008 12:18:19 PM PST by RGSpincich
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It’s the company’s right to decide who they want to do business with.


14 posted on 12/20/2008 12:23:21 PM PST by dalereed
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Yea - we don’t have the whole story. Perhaps her credit was SHOT.

People need to learn that just because they can get $500,000 to buy a house without any verification of ability to pay does NOT mean that they’re entitled to a cell phone.

The difference. They guy who writes the loan sells it off to some sucker, who bundles it up with others and sells it to another sucker, who then sells it to a pension fund, which gets bailed out by ME. Whereas the cell phone company is stuck if they get a deadbeat.


16 posted on 12/20/2008 12:26:33 PM PST by BobL
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Yes, how do they know she is not able to purchase a phone?


17 posted on 12/20/2008 12:29:41 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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No credit, no phone.

Very simple.

19 posted on 12/20/2008 12:35:43 PM PST by realdifferent1 (We've tried the soap box, jury box and ballot box. Only one box left and it's time to use it.)
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She really should get a paying job.

Would you extend credit to an unemployed person?

20 posted on 12/20/2008 12:41:04 PM PST by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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Something sounds fishy here.

She could have bought a pre-paid package phone off the rack.


21 posted on 12/20/2008 12:44:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks allot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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If she’s a single mother with no paying job that’s one thing.

If she’s a mother with a husband that has a paying job it should be the family income that matters, not whether she has a “job” or not.

I’d do business somewhere else if it is the latter.


24 posted on 12/20/2008 12:57:49 PM PST by DB
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Who in the hell are these pinheads to tell anyone that has the price of the phone that he or she or it can't have one? In the next place, I learned long ago not to send anyone away who wanted to leave money with me.

What the hell is vodaphone that they are so precious? And how long does it take for them to "try" to fix it??? Drop the stupid damned policy. Yesterday.

26 posted on 12/20/2008 1:01:02 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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I was not able to be on the mortgage because I did not have an outside job.


27 posted on 12/20/2008 1:03:53 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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I would use the term homemaker.


36 posted on 12/20/2008 1:32:35 PM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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There is a large difference between a mom and a welfare mom. which are we talking about here?


45 posted on 12/20/2008 2:37:03 PM PST by B4Ranch (Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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In any of the United States (doesn’t matter if we’re talking community property or common law) one member of a marital relationship has the right to contract on behalf of the couple under most circumstances. I presume the laws are different down under?


47 posted on 12/20/2008 3:02:08 PM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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