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1 posted on 12/21/2008 10:09:36 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

The guy is a fraud. Says he’s Christian, say he’s against abortion— yet he signals his approval for President Infanticide.

Political ambition driven life.


2 posted on 12/21/2008 10:11:25 PM PST by exist
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a half-educated pulpit-pounder

I get it. Hitchens doesn't like Christians. OK. Doesn't like God much, either.

Hitchens is a good writer, and when he's right he really knocks it out of the park. But he's really got a hangup about God.

3 posted on 12/21/2008 10:19:26 PM PST by marron
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-Hitchens doesn’t believe in salvation for anybody (comes with the whole atheist gig).
-I’ve personally heard him saying some truly uncharitable things about Mormons in particular.
-Oh, come’on, the third point is just plain silly.


7 posted on 12/21/2008 10:33:45 PM PST by eclecticEel (In short, I want Obama given the same respect and deference that Democrats have given George Bush)
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To: Lorianne
As Barack Obama is gradually learning, his job is to be the president of all Americans at all times. If he likes, he can oppose the idea of marriage for Americans who are homosexual. That's a policy question on which people may and will disagree. However, the man he has chosen to deliver his inaugural invocation is a relentless clerical businessman who raises money on the proposition that certain Americans—non-Christians, the wrong kind of Christians, homosexuals, nonbelievers—are of less worth and littler virtue than his own lovely flock of redeemed and salvaged and paid-up donors.

First Hitchens points out that believing one can only be saved by accepting Christ is a central tenant of Christianity, then turns around and suggests that unless Warren repudiates such a belief it is evidence that he believes "certain Americans—non-Christians, the wrong kind of Christians, homosexuals, nonbelievers—are of less worth and littler virtue". Which of course misses the whole point of Christianity, that a Christian isn't saved because he is more virtuous, but by accepting the sacrifice made by Jesus. I'm not even a Christian myself, but I get it, and see no reason why any non-Christian should be offended. If I am building an airplane and someone tells me it's going to crash, why should I be offended, whether I believe it or not?

8 posted on 12/21/2008 10:44:19 PM PST by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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Hitchens’ blind side is exposed here. It isn’t flattering:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1932911/posts?page=4#4


9 posted on 12/21/2008 10:49:09 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Every free act transcends matter, which is why any form of materialism is anti-liberty" - Gagdad)
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Warren is in it for Warren and nobody else.


10 posted on 12/21/2008 10:52:34 PM PST by easternsky
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To: Lorianne

Rick Warren is a new ager cloaked as a man of God.


11 posted on 12/22/2008 1:05:14 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon (America land soon to be of the enslaved...)
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Will Warren be invited to the solemn ceremony of inauguration without being asked to repudiate what he has directly said to deny salvation to Jews?

Why should a person be required to deny their religion?
Did the writer ask that Obama deny his muslim heritage before he became President?


14 posted on 12/22/2008 4:30:08 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: Lorianne
Hitchens, and others, are over-complicating this.

Obama was first willing to attend the Warren campaign forum with McCain and now choose Warren to invocate at the inauguration because Warren has said that Evangelicals should consider that social justice and environmental justice are just as important as right to life, homosexuality, and stem cells.

Social Justice voters are democratic voters.

15 posted on 12/22/2008 5:43:16 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Lorianne; Calm_Cool_and_Elected

ping for later


16 posted on 12/22/2008 5:58:08 AM PST by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (So many books, so little time!)
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Will Warren be invited to the solemn ceremony of inauguration without being asked to repudiate what he has directly said to deny salvation to Jews?

Out of curiosity, what is Judaism's position on the salvation of Christians, and are they constantly hassled to repudiate it?

17 posted on 12/22/2008 6:30:12 AM PST by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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