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Why Obama Really Might Decriminalize Marijuana
www.esquire.com ^ | December 23, 2008 | John H. Richardson

Posted on 12/23/2008 10:20:03 AM PST by kennedy

Famously, Franklin Delano Roosevelt saved the United States banking system during the first seven days of his first term.

And what did he do on the eighth day? "I think this would be a good time for beer," he said.

Congress had already repealed Prohibition, pending ratification from the states. But the people needed a lift, and legalizing beer would create a million jobs. And lo, booze was back. Two days after the bill passed, Milwaukee brewers hired six hundred people and paid their first $10 million in taxes. Soon the auto industry was tooling up the first $12 million worth of delivery trucks, and brewers were pouring tens of millions into new plants.

"Roosevelt's move to legalize beer had the effect he intended," says Adam Cohen, author of Nothing To Fear, a thrilling new history of FDR's first hundred days. "It was, one journalist observed, 'like a stick of dynamite into a log jam.'"

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FDR was elected in 1932 and took office in 1933. After six years of trying to tax and spend the economy into recovery, the Great Depression did not bottom out until 1939.

It was WWII that finally ended the Great Depression, not The New Deal, the Second New Deal or beer.

1 posted on 12/23/2008 10:20:04 AM PST by kennedy
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To: kennedy

Yes but beer made it easier to swallow!


2 posted on 12/23/2008 10:22:35 AM PST by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: kennedy
Why Obama Really Might Decriminalize Marijuana

Because he's a stoner?

3 posted on 12/23/2008 10:22:36 AM PST by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now.)
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To: kennedy

“Maaaaaaan. Dude on TV was sayin’ th’economy gonna get worse. Man, that’s a bummer. I mean — wha? Did you say sumthin’? Oh! Check it out, dude! This tune is unreal!! Anyway. I don’t see why peoples is all panicky. And stuff.”


4 posted on 12/23/2008 10:23:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: kennedy
It's very unlikely that Hussein will move to decrim MJ, as such a move would lessen fedgov power (anathema to a socialist like him). Besides, SloJoe is a stauch Drug Warrior type.

If anything, look for the War on Pot to become even more intrusive than it already is.

5 posted on 12/23/2008 10:25:03 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Why Obama Really Might Decriminalize Marijuana?
Because he's a stoner?

That would be the best thing that could happen. If he does that, I'll put up a full sized Obama poster on my wall in the garage. I still wont smoke, but finally someone would make sense.

6 posted on 12/23/2008 10:26:00 AM PST by MovementConservative (Merry Christmas.)
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To: kennedy

He has to get some of it right.


7 posted on 12/23/2008 10:26:40 AM PST by nufsed
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To: kennedy
I hope he does Decriminalize Marijuana. It would be one of the few sensible things he will do.
8 posted on 12/23/2008 10:27:15 AM PST by KoRn
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To: bassmaner

That’ true.

The Obamessiah is going to be needing a steady supply and what better way for the new “Chancellor” to get it than through siezure via Federal Agency (or, more accurately, Ministry).


9 posted on 12/23/2008 10:27:21 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: kennedy
This thread deserves this pic:
10 posted on 12/23/2008 10:27:51 AM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: kennedy

...I don’t see it happening.


11 posted on 12/23/2008 10:28:34 AM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: kennedy

...so that we can all stomach his economic plans?


12 posted on 12/23/2008 10:29:02 AM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: All

Decriminalize marijuana is never going to happen. There is too many people that make their living fighting the drug war.


13 posted on 12/23/2008 10:29:06 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: kennedy


14 posted on 12/23/2008 10:29:07 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: KoRn

I agree. Maybe then I could quit drinking. ;^)


15 posted on 12/23/2008 10:31:40 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: kennedy

16 posted on 12/23/2008 10:33:28 AM PST by Kukai
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To: MovementConservative

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


17 posted on 12/23/2008 10:34:01 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Military family member

“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy”
Ben Franklin


18 posted on 12/23/2008 10:34:39 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: kennedy

Out of curiosity, were it to be decriminalized, which companies would be “ready to roll” immediately and capture the market?


19 posted on 12/23/2008 10:35:16 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: LuxMaker

20 posted on 12/23/2008 10:35:28 AM PST by kennedy (I'm a Kennedy with no experience or qualifications too! Where do I sign up for MY Senate seat?)
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To: nufsed
He has to get some of it right.

Broken clock....and all that jazz. As the coolest POTUS ever he really should legalize the devil weed. I really thought Clinton would do it. What a phony he turned out to be.

21 posted on 12/23/2008 10:35:39 AM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: kennedy

0bama can’t decriminalize anything. Congress can, and The 0ne can sign it, but acting on his own is something he can’t do.


22 posted on 12/23/2008 10:36:35 AM PST by DBrow
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To: kennedy

Decriminalizing all drugs is a Soros goal

and zerO is a Soros puppet

Follow the money to see who will get rich(er) during zerO’s regime.

Dead drug users and lives lost to addiction are “acceptable collateral damage” to these people. It is horrible.


23 posted on 12/23/2008 10:37:23 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: KoRn

I would like to see it decriminalized, too...PLUS, perhaps they can begin using hemp as a fossil fuel.
I don’t have back-up for this, but I’ve heard that the oil/gas companies were behind making hemp illegal since it can be used as a fossil fuel...and at a much cheaper rate.


24 posted on 12/23/2008 10:38:23 AM PST by KEmom (Please send viable Republican candidates to Massachusetts!!)
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To: theDentist

“decriminalize” does not mean “make it legal”. It means civil penalties and rehab as opposed to decades in Terminal Island.

Massachusetts “decriminalized” last election; fine of $100 for posession of less than one oz and rehab for minors caught with pot.


25 posted on 12/23/2008 10:38:46 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Zevonismymuse

He should have at least made it legal to puff but not inhale.


26 posted on 12/23/2008 10:38:53 AM PST by nufsed
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To: kennedy
the bread and circus approach of the authoritarian... take real rights then give them trivial things to keep them passive /self medicated
27 posted on 12/23/2008 10:39:45 AM PST by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: DBrow
You are correct.

I think there'll be a push to legalize it. Under that circumstance, any ideas?

28 posted on 12/23/2008 10:40:38 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: kennedy

Pot is like buying a soda in Hawaii. While driving around Hana years ago, I saw guys were selling pot publicly on the streets, really pathetic.


29 posted on 12/23/2008 10:42:46 AM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and BO is a WHINING marxist)
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To: kennedy

Ummmmm. The Dali Obama can’t legalize dope. We aren’t a monarchy yet. I know that’s what the libs want, but not yet.

However I would love to see the stupid drug war ended. It’s already lost completely. Only a handful of profiteers and Pharisees support it any more.


30 posted on 12/23/2008 10:43:11 AM PST by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: theDentist
Out of curiosity, were it to be decriminalized, which companies would be “ready to roll” immediately and capture the market?

Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds probably already have the blueprints drawn and marketing developed.

31 posted on 12/23/2008 10:43:27 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Military family member
Yes but beer made it easier to swallow!

Is that a Monica quote?

32 posted on 12/23/2008 10:43:42 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

decriminalize it so that government can tax it for more revenue


33 posted on 12/23/2008 10:45:19 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Weed will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no weed”

.....The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers


34 posted on 12/23/2008 10:45:40 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: theDentist
If pot becomes legal, the booze and tobacco companies would be my first bet, then some conglomerate like Beatrice Foods, ADM, or Blue Sun Group.

There would need to be lots of new laws about DUI, testing, employment, lawsuits for employers who still test for pot use, and so on. Plus taxes taxes taxes.

Worst part is, instead of DEA busting you for possession, now BATFE goes after “bootleggers” who dare to posess or sell homegrown or other out-of-federal-control weeds.

35 posted on 12/23/2008 10:45:56 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Just another Joe
Is that a Monica quote?


36 posted on 12/23/2008 10:48:32 AM PST by kennedy (I'm a Kennedy with no experience or qualifications too! Where do I sign up for MY Senate seat?)
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To: silverleaf
Dead drug users and lives lost to addiction are “acceptable collateral damage” to these people. It is horrible.

This might seem harsh but there is such a thing as self cleansing of the gene pool.

Drugs, mind altering substances, have been around for as long as there have been humans.
You will not stop people that want to use them from using them.
Those that are too weak willed to resist addiction normally know they are too weak willed to resist. They should never use them. If they do, and become addicted, it is their fault, not the drugs fault.

As I said, this may seem harsh but it's also a fact of life.

37 posted on 12/23/2008 10:48:49 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: kennedy

That’s what I want to deal with. Some idiot who is lethargic and doesn’t care or know what he is talking about. What a conversation that would be.

No thanks.


38 posted on 12/23/2008 10:49:02 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: kennedy

The bureaucracy of the war on drugs is a monster that Obama might not want to mess with. The number of people who depend on it for their livelihood might be more than the number of people who could be employed by legalization. Every local law enforcement branch has some kind of paramilitary, SWAT like team, with dogs, machine guns, armored vehicles and so on. How many cops are kept employed just to break into houses and terrorized dope dealers, not that they always get the right house? There are county, city and State policemen to think of in practically every town in the US, and an economy of Billions. Then there are the various federal, law enforcement agencies to worry about, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of officers that are there for the drug war could be displaced, not to mention all of the paramilitary teams and equipment they have. Then we have the prisons that are filled with drug dealers and users. How many corrections officers are employed by them? We are talking billions of state and federal dollars here, and the good part is that it will never go away. There will always be plenty of drugs to keep users happy while providing millions of drug war related jobs. Once marijuana is decriminalized, the rest will follow, and a lot of people with no job skills outside of law enforcement will be unemployed during a prolonged, economic downturn.


39 posted on 12/23/2008 10:50:00 AM PST by pallis
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To: kennedy

Sorry, I’m at work on lunch and only see a red X.


40 posted on 12/23/2008 10:50:22 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: bassmaner

Heck...the Fed’s will just corner/control the market on pot...and tax, tax, tax, tax, it..!!


41 posted on 12/23/2008 10:51:14 AM PST by Osage Orange (Congress would steal the nickels off a dead man's eye's...............)
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To: kennedy

and then there was the NFA of 1934...


42 posted on 12/23/2008 10:51:33 AM PST by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: KEmom

Paper companies were behind the “Reefer Madness”

Alaska has decrimilized THe Green. UP to 4 oz for personal use is no pro blamus.

More than 4 and off to jail you go - big time.


43 posted on 12/23/2008 10:52:26 AM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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To: KEmom
I don’t have back-up for this, but I’ve heard that the oil/gas companies were behind making hemp illegal since it can be used as a fossil fuel...

Hemp was made illegal due to tireless efforts of a gentleman named Harry J. Anslinger. Mr Anslinger had witnessed how J. Edgar Hoover had managed to create the FBI and leverage himself into running it and wanted to do the same because he had been a prohibition commissioner and prohibition had been repealed and he needed some job security.

So Anslinger propagated horror stories (e.g. Reefer Madness) about Marijuana abuse and got the white folk terrified that all their women were going to be raped by Mexican farm laborers and negro jazz musicians who were high on hemp. He lied under oath to Congress and it all paid off when he got Marijuana taxed (remember the first step to outlawing something it to get a special tax on it (watch out for this with guns and ammo under The One) and got himself appointed as Commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics (FBN - notice the similarity to FBI) which, like J. Edgar, he made a career of and stayed in the job for 32 years.

44 posted on 12/23/2008 11:01:43 AM PST by atomic_dog
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To: kennedy

Obviously we don’t need any legal drugs on the streets judging by how many stoners voted for Obama.
There is no other way to explain how so many people don’t havea clue.

Put that idea into your pipe and smoke it.


45 posted on 12/23/2008 11:05:29 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: KoRn

Yeah. They could get a lot of taxes and put police back to preventing violent crime........WOW MAAANN!


46 posted on 12/23/2008 11:10:21 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: kennedy

Lend-Lease


47 posted on 12/23/2008 11:13:23 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I know no pot smokers who speak like your caricature of a pot smoker.


48 posted on 12/23/2008 11:22:32 AM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Just another Joe

My child died of a drug overdose.

You have just told me his death cleansed the gene pool? And that when he was 13 he should have been strong enough to not experiment with the marijuana that led him through the gateway of hell to bigger and better thrills?

I believe in karma to people who give such hurt, but am trying to overcome it. May God protect you from your stupidity and never suffer loss like mine. On the other hand, if you or someone you ove is reborn as an Amsterdam junkie, it might be poetic


49 posted on 12/23/2008 11:24:52 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: bassmaner

‘bammy has a bigger directive than socialism. Socialism is just one of the tools being used toward the bigger goal of the total destruction of the institution of the family.


50 posted on 12/23/2008 11:25:35 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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