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Cracks in the global warming consensus..
SF Politics Examiner ^ | December 22, 2008 | Arthur Bruzzone

Posted on 12/24/2008 6:33:38 AM PST by RogerFGay

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To: SubMareener
We should call the coming Little Ice Age the Gore-Hanson Minimum. ;-)

Every now and then, the History Channel broadcasts a two-hour show about the climate from 1300-1850. I think they call it "The Little Ice Age" or "Big Chill".

I'm not a scientist, but I found the show fascinating.

I'm much more concerned about global cooling than I am global warming.

21 posted on 12/24/2008 7:59:16 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me...I voted for Palin!)
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To: RogerFGay

Bump


22 posted on 12/24/2008 8:00:23 AM PST by painter
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To: nysuperdoodle

Would it not be logical to believe that we over do global warming reductions then we could force the earth into a ice age. I think its just as logical.

My 2 cents.


23 posted on 12/24/2008 8:24:44 AM PST by ully2 (ully)
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To: RogerFGay

For Christmas, WE NEED SOME GLOBAL WARMING - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWQ7GToKm4M

AL GORE’S GLOBAL WARMING WONDERLAND -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVMoNHY1dLo


24 posted on 12/24/2008 8:34:41 AM PST by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Murp
Follow the money.

And the money is assuaging peoples guilt. That is why Al Gore and his partner Hank Paulson (Treasury Secretary for the USA, former CEO for Goldman Sachs) own a carbon credit company. They plant trees, for the children.

25 posted on 12/24/2008 9:07:40 AM PST by thirst4truth
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Trofim Denisovich Lysenko

......His unorthodox experimental research in improved crop yields earned the support of Soviet leadership,.......

......Scientific dissent from Lysenko's theories of environmentally acquired inheritance was formally outlawed in 1948, and for the next several years opponents were purged from held positions,.........

.....Today much of Lysenko's agricultural experimentation and research is largely viewed as fraudulent.....

I had to look him up. Your analogy is dead on. Hansen and Gore will go down in history much like this fraud.
26 posted on 12/24/2008 9:36:09 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Islander7

Yes as I originally posted, Gore is the American Lysenko.

Lysenko was put by Stalin in charge of the failed Soviet Agricultural Collective. He soon discovered that if he didn’t provide cover for the Soviet State that Stalin would have him executed (murdered).

Therefore Lysenko embarked on a campaign to ferret out opponents of his agricultural methods, namely well-respected biologists and geneticists. They became scapegoats for Lysenko and the Soviet State. Lysenko blamed them for the State’s failure to produce food and hence the ensuing famines.

The famines were thus a result of a remnant of the bourjoisie. Thousands of well-respected scientists and farmers were imprisoned, sent to the Gulags or otherwised murdered.

Anyone that opposed to Lysenko dared not let out their views.

The behavioral aspects of Gore’s Global Warming campaign are a repeat of the Lysenko acts in human history.


27 posted on 12/24/2008 10:36:10 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage

Do the Nobel dingbats “take back” prizes?


28 posted on 12/24/2008 11:27:49 AM PST by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: RogerFGay

After the end of last years wretched winter, I told my wife that for the sake of humanity and general sanity, I hope next winter is even colder and snowier (and I hate cold and snow.) It is. And the blithering idiots refuse to give up even though the number of reputable scientists who are skeptics is growing. How long can the gw doomists keep it up?


29 posted on 12/24/2008 11:57:02 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Publius6961

The makeup of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee is different than all other Nobel committees. They are backed by the hard left.

The hard left and its surrogates are a remnant and possible now a reactivation of the Soviet propaganda network which was enormous in decades past.

After the fall of the USSR, tens of thousands of media personnel trained in propaganda and its tactics became ‘free agents’ and found themselves finding jobs in the West, and at the UN and funded by its grants. It was pointed out by British scientists that many media persons pushing the notion of man-made global warming were recognized to be former Soviet journalists and agitators.

In short the Soviet funded leftwing was left rudderless in the early nineties and have since regrouped under the banner of man-made global warming. This regrouping is also consistent with the long known leftist agenda items in the ‘Law of the Sea’ Treaty (LOST) efforts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea

The left seeks control of industry and commerce by regulating the inputs and outputs of human activity to the air. In short, ‘Control the Atmosphere, Control People’.

LOST campaigns to control inland industry by regulating its atmospheric effects on the seas and oceans. The politics of man-made global warming falls in line with that campaign.

The left now refers to their campaign as opposing man-made ‘Climate Change’. And no, the facts do not deter them because the people that comprise the movement are linked to former Soviet trained propagandists and agitators who respect tactics only, never truth.

Treaties are ratified by the US Senate. As Coleman now appears to be losing, it is entirely possible that a form of LOST/Climate Change Treaty will be passed. If such a treaty passes, the UN/Gore-Kerry forces will have a global tax imposed that will finance future leftist global agenda items.

It’s all about a global tax and the power and control that stem from it.


30 posted on 12/24/2008 12:55:23 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Condor51

Control the language and you can control the world. The fanatic lying left has a great deal of experience in imposing their fake world views on a population. I have no doubt the global warming hysteria movement has some old KGB information officers working in it.


31 posted on 12/26/2008 9:27:18 AM PST by RogerFGay
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To: Vinnie
There ya go.!! Scientists for sale.

I've had no doubt about this for many years. This is not my first bout with Big Lie politics. You should have seen the rush of PhDs lining up to say anything government agencies with money to spend wanted them to say about divorced fathers and child support. It would have made your stomach churn. States are still obligated by law to review their child support laws once every 4 years - and they have no problem at all getting someone to sign a "study" supporting a push for anything they ask for.
32 posted on 12/26/2008 9:30:17 AM PST by RogerFGay
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