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California: Law School Lure: No Tuition (at a state school)
Associated Press / New York Times ^ | December 25, 2008

Posted on 12/25/2008 5:49:22 AM PST by reaganaut1

A law school opening next fall in Southern California is offering a big incentive to top students who might be thinking twice about the cost of a legal education during the recession: free tuition for three years. The offer is part of a strategy by Erwin Chemerinsky, a renowned constitutional law scholar and dean of the new school at the University of California, Irvine, to attract Ivy League-caliber students to the first new public law school in the state in 40 years. The law school hopes to offer full scholarships to all 60 members of its inaugural class in 2009. Mr. Chemerinsky is convinced the prospect of free education, combined with a public-interest curriculum and the University of California moniker, will fill his first class and land Irvine among the nation’s best law schools. “Our goal is to be a top 20 law school from the first time we are ranked,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: aclu; chemerinsky; freeride; lawschool; lawyers; uci; ucirvine
Is there a shortage of lawyers in CA or elsewhere in the U.S.? Why should taxpayers be funding a new law school, and why shouldn't students be paying tuition? Isn't California going bankrupt?

I bet the "public-interest" curriculum won't be in the public interest, covering things like using environmental lawsuits to strangle business (a California specialty). We are being forced to subsidize our enemies.

1 posted on 12/25/2008 5:49:22 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

More, more, and more lawyers... ain’t that just what California needs?


2 posted on 12/25/2008 5:51:35 AM PST by flowerplough ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: flowerplough

Counselor, get to work picking those grapes!


3 posted on 12/25/2008 5:58:15 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: reaganaut1

Nothing is scarier than the idea of lawyers being churned out by the thousands every year in California, tuition free, and unleashed upon America.

Lawyers and the practice of law should be regulated.


4 posted on 12/25/2008 5:58:41 AM PST by hnorris (Deserve Victory)
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To: reaganaut1

Liberty and Justice for All... learn the fine art of bankrupting your enemies through litigation, while making a nice little sum, and feel good about it!


5 posted on 12/25/2008 5:59:03 AM PST by HondaCRF450
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To: reaganaut1

you get what you pay for. dumbest lawyers ever


6 posted on 12/25/2008 6:04:43 AM PST by GeronL (long lost freeper)
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To: reaganaut1

Erwin Chemerinsky is a hard-core socialist. UC Irvine tried to fire him before the school opened, then the libs screamed and they took him back. With free tuition the big law firm socialists will subsidize the students so the firms will have a highly trained cadre of public intrest lawyers to feed them the big class actions against business.


7 posted on 12/25/2008 6:05:32 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

Hugh Hewitt was the “lib” that hollered the loudest.


8 posted on 12/25/2008 6:14:09 AM PST by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: reaganaut1
Help me understand something!we have a state that is going down the financial dumper.

And they want to provide education at taxpayer expense for the incoming class of ACORN thugs and Community Orginizers?

Dante had it right "Abandon hope all ye that enter California"

9 posted on 12/25/2008 6:28:19 AM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: reaganaut1

This is a great idea. God knows, what this country needs is more lawyers. We have way too many engineers, scientists, machinists, etc. Who will do the lawyering for the next generation if we don’t open more law schools?


10 posted on 12/25/2008 6:31:41 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: reaganaut1

Instead of lawyers, they should be training “anti-lawyers”, literally.

That is, legal and constitutional scholars, with some extremely complicated, and generations long legal projects, taking on long-term issues that have long pestered our government and legal system:

1) Federal government reduction and reorganization. A major flaw in the constitution was the lack of an equally complicated process by which the government could be “pruned” back to what is authorized by the constitution. Much of government that was created for pragmatic reasons has continued to exist by its inertia.

This applies to all branches of government, and needs to be a continuing effort. Parts of government have to be forced to justify themselves on an ongoing basis, from the point of view: are they legal?; is their purpose unchanged?; could they be performed better by others?; and, do they need to be done at all?

2) The rewriting of Native American and indigenous peoples treaties and law. Many Indian treaties are incomprehensible, and were at the time they were written. On top of that, there is an absence of federal business law on the reservations that prevents economic development, chaotic overlapping authority, and all led by the BIA, an almost Soviet-quality exercise in bureaucratic insanity.

Eventually, after decades of work, a NAIP congress will need to be convened, to negotiate with the president, and pass both a blanket NAIP law and sign legitimate treaties.

3) Civil and Criminal legal reform. The amount of scholarly work involved in this is staggering. It represents a reevaluation of the entire historical legal process, from crime or argument, to incarceration and release and legal settlement.

Added all up, this would be far more work than most of the lawyers in the United States could do in a century.


11 posted on 12/25/2008 6:32:44 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: OnTheDress
Why did Hugh Hewitt defend this guy? Intellectual freedom, maybe?

For all you aspiring law students out there, if your ConLaw prof. uses Chemerinsky's textbook, you are in for it.

12 posted on 12/25/2008 6:33:08 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: GeronL

“you get what you pay for. dumbest lawyers ever”

You know what they call the guys who graduated bottom of their class at any law school and passed the Bar exam? Lawyers.


13 posted on 12/25/2008 6:35:57 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: 1rudeboy

HH is sometimes un. He uses Chemerinsky’s textbook in his class at Chapman University.


14 posted on 12/25/2008 6:39:17 AM PST by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: All

I think CA has about 258,000 lawyers! We’re not going to run out of them soon.


15 posted on 12/25/2008 6:42:19 AM PST by pelicandriver
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To: reaganaut1; All

Thread BUMP!


16 posted on 12/25/2008 6:47:35 AM PST by PGalt
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To: flowerplough

Oh goody...a tuition-free academy to teach students how to destroy democracy through the law.


17 posted on 12/25/2008 6:49:05 AM PST by Hildy
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To: reaganaut1

Just what we don’t need, lawyers.
Too many lawyers already.
What we really need is engineers.
3/4 of all the engineers in the United States are within 5 or 6 years of retirement.


18 posted on 12/25/2008 6:50:41 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Rebelbase

“You know what they call the guys who graduated bottom of their class at any law school and passed the Bar exam? Lawyers.”

From what I have read, there is a big difference in the job opportunities for lawyers who have graduated from high- and low-ranking law schools. The prestigious law firms offering starting salaries in the six figures don’t recruit everywhere.


19 posted on 12/25/2008 7:29:52 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Just what we need: an army of liberal lawyers trained by middle class Americans that libs despise. :(


20 posted on 12/25/2008 7:32:14 AM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: reaganaut1

Who’s paying for it?


21 posted on 12/25/2008 8:03:54 AM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: reaganaut1
Approximately 60% of U.S. senators hold law degrees, and a large number of those practiced before entering politics. There are 1,143,358 lawyers in the U.S. as of Dec. 2006, or less than 1% of the population, according to the ABA.

Seems to me that having so many lawyers in the Senate is clear evidence that this body is not representative of its citizens, nor is it attracting the best, brightest and most accomplished Americans, by any stretch of the imagination.

22 posted on 12/25/2008 8:04:16 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: reaganaut1

Lincoln read law.


23 posted on 12/25/2008 8:08:26 AM PST by onedoug
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To: abb

fyi - Erwin Chemerinsky.


24 posted on 12/25/2008 9:00:24 AM PST by Ken H
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To: reaganaut1

CA and the rest of the US has a terrible shortage of nurses. Many people want to become nurses but there are not enough slots in nursing schools for them. So these idiots open a law school instead of a nursing school. And Hewitt is a typical lawyer who plays both sides of the deck. IIRC he also supported McCain’s amnesty for illegals along with Michael Medved.


25 posted on 12/25/2008 12:17:42 PM PST by fifedom
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To: fifedom
IIRC, he supported Harriet Meiers as well.
26 posted on 12/25/2008 5:26:43 PM PST by Ken H
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