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Why Does Hollywood Hate the Suburbs?
online.wsj.com ^ | 122708 | By LEE SIEGEL

Posted on 12/27/2008 5:53:20 AM PST by VU4G10

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To: AnAmericanMother
Ha. Our Havanese took care of the Canada geese on the golf course in Forest Park. Definitely cheaper than the Border Collies they hire.

I guess I'm just sensitive because the suburbs give me the willies. They always have, too.

101 posted on 12/27/2008 8:51:30 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: Tax-chick

The precursor to the lab is the extra trailor or shed thrown up behind the residence. You know, back where all the dogs are.

They like those wooded, no-zoning lots where they pay by land-contract to the rich guy who doesn’t care the land is being used as junkyards and meth labs.


102 posted on 12/27/2008 8:54:49 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Tax-chick

Oh. Well, our house has never been broken into except for a squirrel coming through the kitchen window. He was after bread. In my memory, only two houses have been broken into in over 35 years. There was a rash when I was a kid, but the perpetrator was a single individual. The worst recently was a neighbor who was a cop was sitting in his squad car in the business part of town Halloween night and he was shot at point blank range. That guys was given up pretty quickly and caught in Kansas City. That hadn’t happened here in a long time.


103 posted on 12/27/2008 8:56:57 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: Desdemona
There are suburbs and suburbs.

When we sold our little cabin in downtown Atlanta and started looking, we saw some subdivisions that repelled us like garlic does a vampire. They tended to be over in East Cobb, built in the 1980s, for immigrants to the Atlanta area. Very small lots, houses built on one pattern, all looked the same. Kinda creepy.

We went with an older suburb closer in. Houses are different architecturally, set at different distances from the street, larger lots, etc.

104 posted on 12/27/2008 8:57:16 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary - recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Somebody must have cleaned out the badmen and the saloons.

Oh, no, they were there. Just down by Saujay. ESL is a lot bigger than you might think.

105 posted on 12/27/2008 8:58:49 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: hinckley buzzard
For millions of Depression-era veterans returning after WWII the ability to buy a home with a GI loan and move to "tract housing" was the American dream come true.

I'm not attacking vets or the circumstances that led them to move into tract housing.

Sorry your tastes are so refined you cannot appreciate the historic triumph of an earlier time.

It isn't about "taste" or "refinement". I don't think anyone has ever accused me of having either. ;)

My beef with tract housing - all forms of 'cookie cutter' housing, actually - is the icky conformity and lack of individual expression.

This extends to attempts to limit individual expression.

For example: A nutty HOA that prohibits a nativity scene on a private lawn or won't "allow" a homeowner to paint his house hot pink.

As for the historic triumph of applying the economics of scale to housing, um... not sure what to say. They built a ton of houses cheaply.

106 posted on 12/27/2008 9:12:39 AM PST by CE2949BB (MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: Tax-chick
Why?

I can confirm that the folllowing stuff from Wikipedia is acurate, because I may discuss this aspect of the book on my blog and peeked at a few appropriate pages to make sure:

Seeking to break out of their suburban rut, April convinces Frank they should move to Paris, where she will work and support him while he realizes his vague ambition to be something other than an office worker. Unfortunately, Frank (from whose point of view most of the novel is told) is a weak reed, doing the minimum to get by at work without developing any alternative self, in contrast with April's taking concrete steps to accomplish their move. When April conceives their third child, their plan to leave America crumbles, not least because Frank is flattered by praise from his supervisors at work and beginning to identify with his mundane job. April realizes that she doesn't know herself any more and that she doesn't love Frank; she tries to abort their child herself, but botches the attempt and dies in her effort to fight the forces keeping her in her suburban housewife lifestyle. Frank grieves, but soon becomes absorbed by the work he had once despised, and "dies" an inward death.

The Wikipedia plot summary for the movie says they were both cheating on each other, as well.

107 posted on 12/27/2008 9:22:55 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas. Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

There was a popular bluegrass song about Duncan and Brady just recently. “He’s been on the job too long!” is the line that sticks in my mind: that would be the sheriff/marshal, I guess.


108 posted on 12/27/2008 9:23:40 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: gridlock

Well said.


109 posted on 12/27/2008 9:23:52 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas. Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: Clemenza

My neighborhood was a cornfield, historically. “Old stuff” here is maybe 120 years old; anything older fell down when people stopped using it.


110 posted on 12/27/2008 9:25:13 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thanks. One can easily see that it’s all the fault of living in the suburbs instead of in Paris, where there’s never been any adultery or illegal abortions.


111 posted on 12/27/2008 9:27:45 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: Desdemona

I think it’s just delightful that you’re happy with your home!


112 posted on 12/27/2008 9:29:28 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: Desdemona
Miles Davis grew up in East St. Louis, the only black child on a predominantly Jewish and Armenian (!) block.

I know that the shanty whites basically burned down the black part of town after a black man had nearly assaulted a young white girl while she was sleeping.

113 posted on 12/27/2008 9:30:43 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Clemenza

bttt


114 posted on 12/27/2008 9:31:33 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Comparative Advantage

And to add to what you have written: I read on FR the other day that capitalism cannot survive without a moral society.


115 posted on 12/27/2008 9:32:31 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: TypeZoNegative
If you drove an art car or god forbid, you decided to commute to town using a bicycle or a motorbike instead of a car, you’re seen as some sort of pariah amongst your neighbors.

Have you ever actually lived in a suburb? Or have you formed this conclusion based on "adventures to the suburbs" which sounds to me like a day trip on a tour bus or something?

I have lived in the 'burbs and I found none of that to be true, I mean flatly, bizarrely false. My neighbors didn't even blink when I rode a bike on errands during the $4 gas era, and I doubt they'll be any more put out when I'm doing it again in the spring. Where I grew up, we had a steady string of out-of-the-ordinary automobiles (and some motorcycles, too) coming out of our garage, from open wheel modifieds to 4 wheel drive conversions of profoundly 2 wheel drive cars, like an AMC Gremlin and an El Camino. Nobody ever complained, and all the kids on the street played as a big gang, welcome at every house.

So, having lived in suburban style communities in three states, let's just say I'm more than a little skeptical about your conclusions.

116 posted on 12/27/2008 9:51:18 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas. Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: Tax-chick

Oui, oui!

I wonder how many of the people who will see the movie and have had heights of near-erotic ecstasy over the book know that the restrictions on abortion in France are so “draconian” that they wouuld be laughed out of court in the U.S. and would have trouble passing in any state legislature here that is to the left of South Dakota’s.


117 posted on 12/27/2008 10:04:31 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas. Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: VU4G10

There are some exceptions to the rule. Take for example the two Father of the Bride remakes starring Steve Martin. Those films lovingly embraces the suburbs and suburban living.


118 posted on 12/27/2008 10:14:00 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Jeff Chandler; TypeZoNegative; Tax-chick
Type writes about the suburban reaction to art cars as if one becomes a pariah if their car is the wrong shade of fuschia, or one is ostracized if one drives a MiniCooper or a Prius instaed of a PT Cruiser.

But, here are some examples of art cars:



Now, I certainly wouldn't shun anyone who drove those (in fact, I'm starting to think that a string of art cars would be an awesome scale modeling project) but if you drive one of these around on your commute and your neighbors think you're weird, does that really mean they are collectivists?

119 posted on 12/27/2008 10:14:29 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas. Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: B-Chan
I hate suburbia. In my experience, it’s a haven for custard-brained TV- and car-worshipers who are afraid of anything that doesn’t have ketchup on it.

Nope, no prejudice there!

Print that sentence from your post out, take it to confession and ask your priest if you need to be contrite about it.

120 posted on 12/27/2008 10:16:29 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas. Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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