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To: Red in Blue PA

Yeah, throw people and their kids who can’t get jobs into the street in the worst economic times I ever remember. Wow, great people in Charlotte.


7 posted on 12/29/2008 11:11:09 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy
Yeah, throw people and their kids who can’t get jobs into the street in the worst economic times I ever remember.

Yep. You're a Democrat.

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9 posted on 12/29/2008 11:38:42 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: bronxboy

“Yeah, throw people and their kids who can’t get jobs into the street in the worst economic times I ever remember. Wow, great people in Charlotte.”

I understand what you’re saying but what about the overburdened taxpayer that’s paying out 50% of his income in various taxes? There are some people who deserve our help but there are millions in this country that are swindlers.

I used to volunteer at a homeless shelter for families and you would not believe the number of lazy, ignorant, violent and hostile people out there who have no sense of responsibility and breed like flies. They are vermin who are raising another generation of vermin.


10 posted on 12/29/2008 11:40:15 AM PST by dljordan
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To: bronxboy

Oh knock it the hell off! Your bleeding heart is making a mess all over this thread.


14 posted on 12/29/2008 12:19:14 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: bronxboy

At what point do you feel bad for the taxpayer who is burdened with these people, his own future retirement, his own property taxes, his own local taxes etc etc?????


18 posted on 12/29/2008 12:24:50 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: bronxboy; Lurker; dljordan; Red in Blue PA
Yeah, throw people and their kids who can't get jobs into the street in the worst economic times I ever remember. Wow, great people in Charlotte.

There is much this story does not explain.

The Charlotte Housing Authority redefined its role back in the 90's from strictly housing the poor to transitioning the poor into the community and out of public housing. CHA seeks to be temporary housing for those in need instead of a warehouse for those who no one wants. CHA offers many more services than just housing such as job training, scholarships, job search, day care, and list goes on.

CHA has been very aggressive in the HOPE VI Program. Everyone entering under the Hope VI program (about a third of all clients) already are under these new rules. Hope VI is nationwide and the same rules exist everywhere. The difference is that Charlotte is the first city to extend these rules to include all clients.

CHA has been very successful with Hope VI with about 80% transitioning out of public housing after 5 years. 30% of those have transitioned into home ownership!

...As a civilized nation, we have a responsibility to the poor.

CHA wants to give people a hand up, not a hand out. You tell me which is the more responsible thing to do.

27 posted on 12/29/2008 1:00:49 PM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: bronxboy

>>Wow, great people in Charlotte.<<

Yep.

How do you know how many of these people “can’t” get jobs. It is amazing how motivational “forced responsibility” can be.

You remind me of the driver that stops for a car to take a left turn in front of you and causes a traffic jam behind you. That is, this is actually very beneficial, in the long run, for everyone involved, including, but not limited to, the taxpayers hitherto being suckered. And those doing the suckering will actually benefit from this. I am not kidding. Nobody is gonna die here, unless self inflicted.


74 posted on 12/29/2008 2:33:22 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: bronxboy
Let me tell you something. I grew up in Southeast Wisconsin in the 70s and 80s. The state was infamous for welfare magnets, cheats, and frauds. Everybody in my neighborhood was on welfare and they all got subsidized housing, free food, gov't paid school lunches, and then got a big EITC refund check at the end. Some of these people came up from Chicago to "double-dip" into the system.

Now don't get me wrong. Some of these people truly do need help but whatever happened to private charity? How did people get by before the 60s? Gov't policies create the very poverty it tries to solve. I say everyone on welfare should be forced to re-registered and have a strict time-line of 2 years. That's more than enough time to get back on your feet.

87 posted on 12/29/2008 2:56:46 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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