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Public Schools Change Young Evangelicals' Values
Townhall.com ^ | December 30, 2008 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 12/30/2008 5:24:57 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: agrace

I didn’t become a Christian until I was in my 20’s, but I sure saw enough of what you’re referring to. That played a role in our decision to homeschool.

My two oldest are in secular college now and appear to be impervious to the brainwashing that can happen there.

Although, I don’t think that to this point they’ve had any vehemently rabid Christian hating socialists for teachers.

When they were still at home through their teen years, we discussed a lot of social and political issues and thought them through very carefully. They are decidedly pro-life for that and conservative on all political issues.

Knowing what you believe and WHY you believe it is good defense.


21 posted on 12/30/2008 9:03:25 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Kaslin
Funny you should mention "evangelicals" and "social justice". The liberal christian theology of the day is all about "social justice", and they call themselves "evangelical".

Sojourners
Our mission is to articulate the biblical call to social justice, inspiring hope and building a movement to transform individuals, communities, the church, and the world.
My point is that it's not just the schools that are pushing the social justice agenda. It's all around us.
22 posted on 12/30/2008 9:06:25 AM PST by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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To: Kaslin
Public schools have been corrupting young evangelical minds for more than a generation. What's relatively new is a theological shift in a significant portion of American evangelicalism.

For example, the "emergent church" movement, which is spreading like wildfire in a lot of youth-oriented churches, has drawn many youngsters to the left. These churches are teaching a theology that's remarkably similar to the social gospel of the old denominations. Anyone familiar with the ideas tossed around in the emergent movement will likely not be surprised that these kiddos would be disproportionately be drawn to Obama's rhetoric.

23 posted on 12/30/2008 9:30:24 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Kaslin
Well, Schalfly has written another wad of nonsense. There is nothing in here that explains what changed between 2004 and 2008 - all of these trends have been going on for decades, but nothing to suggest there was a sudden acceleration in the past 4 years.

A better reason (to explain why the younger evangelicals voted so heavily in Obama's favor) is found almost anywhere else. It has to do with the well-documented macro-economic and macro-political conditions in 2007/2008.

24 posted on 12/30/2008 9:57:38 AM PST by nwrep
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To: metmom

Haven’t read it all yet but will when I get back from town later, plus ping it out. Looks very interesting but also exactly what we all know! Keep ‘em home!


25 posted on 12/30/2008 10:44:14 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Kaslin

bttt


26 posted on 12/30/2008 10:59:36 AM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: Kaslin

“Children Rebel Against their Parents!”

Phyllis is quite the genius to discover such a phenomena.

What will Phyllis discover next?

“The majority of unmarried 18-to-29-year-old evangelicals have sexual relations.”


27 posted on 12/30/2008 12:38:12 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Dick Bachert
a budding journalist.

That's great. I haven't read anything good on budding in a long time!

oh relax it's just a little comic relief.

28 posted on 12/30/2008 12:54:25 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: Kaslin
They voted for 0bama for the same reason that 112 year old guy voted fro him, “because he is black.”
29 posted on 12/30/2008 1:40:41 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Smoker, huh?


30 posted on 12/30/2008 1:50:39 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: WayneLusvardi

Yes, this is quite true, re Fuller.


31 posted on 12/30/2008 4:31:33 PM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: MuttTheHoople

> Finally, I read in the Bible that “we should be in
> this world, but not of it”.

What version is that which teaches we ~should~ be in this world? I do not see that in God’s bible.

I read where we are warned 33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.

I read that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump...

7 Ye did run well; who did ~hinder~ you that ye should not obey the truth?
8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.
9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
10 I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.

14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

If we /should/ be in and amongst the world all the time, then why was Paul having trouble making this decision?

21 ¶ For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.


32 posted on 12/30/2008 7:41:08 PM PST by mbj
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To: metmom
Knowing what you believe and WHY you believe it is good defense.

That was another component to my lapse of faith in high school - I was always taught what to believe but not taught why to believe it or how it could be trusted. The good thing that came out of it was that I developed a strong interest in apologetics when returning to God, and as a result my kids will certainly know why the Bible can be trusted.

I don't believe God expects our faith to be blind, at least not in the sense that we've been given no evidence of Him; rather, He's given us plenty enough so that we CAN have faith in the unseen. Like Emerson said, "All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen."

33 posted on 12/31/2008 8:01:09 AM PST by agrace
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To: agrace

I like that quote.


34 posted on 12/31/2008 8:02:38 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Me too. :) I found it on a plaque a few years ago, right about when I was really digging into the apologetics of everything and it just fit so well with my place in life.


35 posted on 12/31/2008 8:25:27 AM PST by agrace
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To: Kaslin
Here's my two cents: The solution to this problem turns out to be very simple, but requiring an organized effort.

First, summarizing the problem as explained by Schlafly:
Students are unsuspecting and uninformed and are being preyed upon by teachers who have it in mind to do more than to teach reading, writing, and arithmetic, they have come to indoctrinate them.

Solutions:
1. Create a pamphlet to make students aware of, and to be alert for, any practice of socialist indoctrination. "Is Your Teacher A Socialist Brainwasher?" Something provocative like that. It should include known examples of this practice. This solves the unsuspecting problem. Also in the pamphlet the student will find information on the differences between a Republic and a Democracy. We throw that word Democracy around all the time, but our Founding Fathers tried their best not to give us a Democracy, they wanted us to have a Republic form of government. A simple, to-the-point explanation of these concepts will work wonders. Further it could state the pitfalls of socialism, communism, oligarch, monarchy, etc. This solves the problem of students being uninformed

The pamphlet can be sent to mom's and dad's with a plea with them to sit down with their children and go over the material in the pamphlet. The pamphlets can also be used as a handout and passed from one student to student to another prior to or after school.

2. Massive radio and TV advertisements, clear, appealing, and to the point, again with a leading question, ie: "Is My Teacher Indoctrinating Me?" for example. Other spots simply explain the way government works as an innocuous and friendly "American Minute" done much the same way a "Bible Minute" program is done on radio by preachers. Content: "Did you know that socialism is bad for our economy?" for example. Ended with: "Get more information at (blog web address)" As elementary as that subject sounds, thats where we find ourselves today.

3. Creation of a 1-800 line and reporting blog where students can report incidents of socialist indoctrination in the classroom. Yes, it will be abused, but do it anyway and filter out, block, the flamers. Flagrant cases of indoctrination may require litigation or other action. Which leads to....

4. Creation of a legal team to handle the worst cases that are proven legitimate. It is amazing what a short letter from an attorney can usually accomplish.

5. Creation of response teams who will go to the communities where these violations occur (yes, they will be very busy.. but lets just get to work, on school at a time) and take action to alert, make a lot of noise about the incident, pass out materials such as the pamphlet mentioned above, buy some spots on local radio TV and newspapers, etc. Kind of like a fire brigade.

It would be easy to think that the volume of work would make this effort impossible... but I predict the instant word gets around that teaching "social justice" might just result in legal action, activist squads, thousands of informative pamphlets and a host of radio ad's to correct the problem, the incidents will quickly become few and far between. Give it a year for it to sink in that the effort is serious, well funded, and on-going... and they will start to get the picture.

Lastly, the idea of homeschooling or private schooling all of the kids isn't going to happen, it isn't practical. Families all over the country don't have the time or the money to simply withdraw from the public schools and their aren't enough empty seats in private schools to hold them all. We stand and fight back.

And yes, I am prepared for all the "our school is like fighting vietnam" posts. If your school is that bad, send in the National Guard. This is an ideological struggle that does not require wearing a helmet and flak jacket to school. School violence is another subject entirely... please lets stick to the subject.

36 posted on 01/22/2009 7:23:53 AM PST by 1-Eagle (Visit the American Conservative Channel on Justin.tv and help us educate a few minds.)
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To: metmom
ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

Homeschool if you like, but it is not the solution for most families, and private schools can't hold them all. Sorry, but it just isn't practical.

We stand and fight back, and we start right now.

We're not talking about school violence. We're talking about an ideological contest that does not require wearing a helmet or flak jacket to school. This "social justice" activity can be exposed, warned against, and quietly reported by students so that it may be acted upon by adult Patriots loyal to our Republic.

If we care about this country then somewhere a well funded response group will be formed to handle it right now. A suggested means for action is found in my post above.

37 posted on 01/22/2009 7:37:41 AM PST by 1-Eagle (Visit the American Conservative Channel on Justin.tv and help us educate a few minds.)
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