Posted on 12/30/2008 4:47:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Well, why not a study of how many Protestants vs. Catholics practice the Rosary, or the Sacraments, Holy Eucharist, Adoration, Feast Days, etc., etc.
Again, the point arises. It’s in the title. It isn’t about whether Catholics and Protestants ‘practice faith’ more or less than each other - but in the difference of the ways they practice.
To use Bible Study as a measure of quantity or quality of the practice of one’s faith is, I maintain, a false measure.
To use Bible Study as a measure of quantity or quality of the practice of one’s faith is, I maintain, a false measure.
It's not a false measure, it's just only one of the measures. If indeed such things can be measured at all.
“Wafer and wine to you - Body and Blood to me. Our beliefs differ, and have been cogitated over endlessly by theologians and laymen alike for centuries. I doubt we are going to resolve our differences in belief on FR!”
LOL, indeed.
unless the “keeper” has drifted seriously off course, hence the reformation.
I went to BSF for years and was a discussion leader with them. I recall no slamming of catholics. In fact, it was against the rules to mention denominations altogether.
If you had a problem with BSF it was either a rogue group (which given the scrutiny we were given by leadership, I doubt), or you had a problem with the Scripture being studied itself.
We Anglicans use the exact same readings, so I'm not saying this is wrong in any way. But that is why I read the Bible on my own when I can. Besides, there is a difference between hearing a reading — even if reading along — and a serious study of a passage on ones own.
-paridel
Ah, you're correct. You Anglicans should be excepted here, and many other places as well.
And ALL Baptized Catholics are “born again”. We just don’t call it that. All the sins are washed away with the Sacrament of Baptism and the person becomes a new person in the eyes of God.
Certainly, as well as the Sacraments, I'm thinking particularly of the Sacrament of Reconciliation here.
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No, hence the counter reformation. No need throw out more than the bath water.
***I don’t know if I can make sense of this but............People born, raised and educated as Catholics, receive most of their religious education at a very early age***
Thank you for saying that. Many people believe Catholics do not read the Bible. I’ll add that at every Mass there are three readings of the Bible, the two preliminary readings, and the Gospel. Further, the priest MUST discuss the meaning of the Gospel as part of his sermon.
>>I went to BSF for years and was a discussion leader with them. I recall no slamming of catholics. In fact, it was against the rules to mention denominations altogether.
If you had a problem with BSF it was either a rogue group (which given the scrutiny we were given by leadership, I doubt), or you had a problem with the Scripture being studied itself.<<
That’s the standard answer. Any Catholic who attends BSF will tell you that they may not say “Catholic” but they sure can find the Bible passages to remind the attendees that “SOME people believe that this tell us of (insert and Catholic teaching) but those people are wrong....”
There are apparently LOTS of rogue BSF groups, from the other people I’ve spoken too. And yeah, I was told I “apparently” didn’t like the scripture. But really, it wasn’t the scripture but rather the person interpreting it.
Many Catholics must be weird because
WE
1. Attend church EVERY week.
2. Attend other church activities at least two other times during the month.
3. Reach out to the less fortunate in our areas. Our individual parrish served over 1220 dinners at Thanksgiving and over 1100 dinners at Christmas. At Christmas we also had free clothing and gifts for the children. Sponsor programs for young mothers, Boy Scouts, etc.
4. Take part in weekly Bible Study Groups (or faith-sharing groups.
5. Pray daily — short prayers or perhaps the Rosary
6. Reach out to those within our parishes with programs such as visiting the sick with Holy Communion, prayer chains, parish nurses, senior’s groups, men’s groups, women’s groups.
7. Celebrate a rich liturgy of both Word and Sacrament — daily if a person desires to attend.
Tell me what other church does all these things?
Come and see for yourself — the fulfillment of Christ’s word!
but since that never occured, the protestant deformation has resulted in hundreds of ‘bible only’ churches that DIFFER FROM ONE CORNER CHURCH TO THE OTHER, on the same piee of scripture regarding salvation issues.....
whereas the roman catholic church continues to teach the same essentials as was passed on to the apostles and their successors....
big difference.
**but what brings me to church is the fellowship with other believers **
Sorry, but fellowship doesn’t get you to heaven. Belief in Jesus Christ, Our Savior does.
That's the entire job of the commie media..dividing people. They would probably be pleased as possums if we did a Northern vs Southern Ireland thing, so they could save us all from ourselves....not.
I have no time for throwing Bible bricks or stringing other Christians up with beads.
I forgot this one.
8 Receive the seven Sacraments and the graces attached to each.
Yes.
And there’s repentance, confession, the Sacrament of Reconciliation.
A key practice of our faith, the Sacramental Life.
Yet, as you note, this ‘report’ seems to unduly weigh protestant views and terms in its measurements.
I think, and I woud not speak for anyone, that Catholics see the chaos in Protestantism so there is this concern that untrained people will read the Bible and misunderstand things and make things up -- and this certainly does happen. But even briefly reading from the Bible during a moment of trial can help one. I have been reading some books, including the Wisdon of Sirach - a book you will find in Catholic Bibles but it is in few Protestant Bibles - and I have gotten a lot out of it. Some verses from that book have helped keep me from being totally discouraged during a very rough couple of years. So God can use any number of things to help one. Certainly if we all reflected on the Passion of Christ more often we would be different people from what we are.
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