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College Students Seek to Use Concealed-Carry Permits
Town Hall ^ | 2009-01-01 | William Perry Pendley

Posted on 01/02/2009 7:47:46 AM PST by rabscuttle385

One minute, Suzanne was eating lunch with her mother and father. The next, the happy hubbub of the restaurant was silenced when a pickup truck crashed through the brick, mortar, and glass. How could that happen? The driver emerged, but Suzanne noticed he wasn’t dazed or drunk; he was angry and purposeful. Then, she saw the guns. He stepped over the debris and began to shoot patrons. She must be dreaming. Her father leaped to his feet, charged the gunman, was shot, and fell to the floor. When the gunman turned his back to shoot others, she remembered: she had a gun! Where was it? She had to find her gun! Oh no, it was in her car. She crawled, then ran toward a window to escape, to get her gun, and to return to save her mother. Was it only a nightmare?

Tragically, for Suzanna Gratia Hupp and scores of others, the murder and mayhem on October 16, 1991, at Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas—60 miles north of Austin—was real: 23 men and women were murdered in cold blood; another 20 were wounded in the deadliest killing spree in American history. (The killer turned one of his two weapons upon himself when cornered by the police.) Dr. Hupp, a chiropractor, had indeed brought her gun to Luby’s that day; however, it was illegal then to carry a concealed weapon in Texas. Despite the admonition of a friend, “Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6,” she feared losing her license if she violated the law. Instead, she lost both her father and her mother; she had thought her mother would follow her through the window, but her mother had returned to comfort her dying husband and had been murdered. Dr. Hupp blames herself to this day.

As a result, Dr. Hupp became one of the Nation’s leading advocates for concealed carry permits; in fact, at her urging, in 1995 the Texas Legislature adopted a “shall-issue” gun law requiring all qualifying applicants to be issued a Concealed Handgun License. In 1996, she was elected to the Texas House of Representatives, then traveled the country giving personal testimony why States should enact concealed carry laws. Most recently, she filed a friend of the court brief when the Supreme Court considered the constitutionality of Washington, D.C.’s ban on handguns for personal safety, District of Columbia v. Heller.

One of the states that enacted the law advocated by Dr. Hupp was Colorado, which, in 2003 created statewide standards for issuing concealed carry permits, adopted a narrow list of exclusions—locations prohibited by federal law; K-12 schools; public buildings with metal detectors; and private property—and prohibited local governments from enforcing any contradictory laws and policies. Despite the Colorado General Assembly’s intent to supplant local rules as to concealed carry, the Regents of the University of Colorado refused to withdraw their 1994 policy barring concealed carry on CU’s campuses throughout the State.

The massacre that killed Dr. Hupp’s parents was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history, that is, it was until the Virginia Tech Massacre of April 17, 2007, when 32 were killed and 17 wounded. Subsequently, on February 14, 2008, a gunman killed 6 and wounded 18 at Northern Illinois University. Little wonder, therefore, that students on CU’s campuses in Boulder, Denver, and Colorado Springs—who have a license to carry concealed weapons almost anywhere else in Colorado—wish to exercise that right in what, in their view, is one of the most dangerous settings they will encounter: “a gun-free zone.”

Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC), a national advocacy group with over 30,000 members that supports the legalization of concealed carry by licensed individuals on college campuses, agrees. Last month, SCCC, two CU students and a recent CU graduate filed a lawsuit in Colorado state court seeking a ruling that CU’s policy is illegal and unconstitutional!


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KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedweapons; sccc
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1 posted on 01/02/2009 7:47:46 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: DaveLoneRanger

SCCC ping!


2 posted on 01/02/2009 7:48:43 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
Murders in gun safe zones are the necessary price we pay for "common sense" gun laws.

That message brought to you by all gun hating Americans.

3 posted on 01/02/2009 7:57:51 AM PST by LouAvul
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4 posted on 01/02/2009 8:02:51 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Have you girded your loins today??????)
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To: LouAvul
That message brought to you by all gun hatingers Americans.

Fixed it for you. No one can call themselves an American and hate guns.

5 posted on 01/02/2009 8:05:41 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: rabscuttle385
12/31/2008 10:18:01 PM PST · by Kaslin


(just teasing ya)

6 posted on 01/02/2009 8:09:30 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: rabscuttle385
I remember watching the Senate hearings where Suzanne Gratia absolutely eviscerated the smirking UpChuck Schumer. She pointed her finger directly at him and told him in no uncertain terms that HE and his fellow Democrats were responsible for her parents' deaths.

She said that she was a law-abiding citizen, but because of the laws prohibiting legal carry, which were obviously ignored by the gunman, she wasn't able to have her gun with her on that day. If she had, she could have stopped the gunman before he'd been able to kill either of her parents, or many others, for that matter.

7 posted on 01/02/2009 8:15:39 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: rabscuttle385

So, are all colleges and universities gun-free or only the ones with that stated policy?


8 posted on 01/02/2009 8:32:41 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: SuziQ

“Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn’t matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.”

——Sarah Brady, President of Handgun Control, Inc., to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, as quoted in The National Educator, January, 1994, Page 3.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/sarahbrady212096.html


9 posted on 01/02/2009 8:32:45 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The left will eventually overturn the 2nd amendment. Leftists are too arrogant and far too dedicated to the Marxist agenda to allow Americans to be armed. And on that day, I pray the second American revolution will begin. If not, the nation will forever be lost, our rights along with it.


10 posted on 01/02/2009 8:42:07 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: rabscuttle385
Dr. Hupp, a chiropractor, had indeed brought her gun to Luby’s that day; however, it was illegal then to carry a concealed weapon in Texas.

Question: Could she have carried her weapon openly in a holster on her hip?

Another question: Isn't open carry more of a deterent to criminals than concealed carry?

I ask both questions in all seriesness.

11 posted on 01/02/2009 8:42:47 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Red in Blue PA
Bogus quote. You don't do the cause any favors by posting ridiculous falsehoods that make us all look stupid.
12 posted on 01/02/2009 8:45:41 AM PST by Timmy
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To: Oldpuppymax

You really believe 3/4’s of the states will overturn the 2nd?

NY and CA and two huge states, but they are not the country and do not make the laws.


13 posted on 01/02/2009 8:47:43 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: Timmy

If it is bogus, why is it on brainyquote?

And if it truly is bogus, I will ask the mods to delete my post.


14 posted on 01/02/2009 8:54:40 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Good luck. Practically all colleges have speech and affirmative action policies that are illegal and unconstitutional. They don’t care. The Constitution is just a piece of paper.


15 posted on 01/02/2009 9:04:27 AM PST by tvdog12345
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To: Red in Blue PA

They don’t need 3/4 of the states to overturn the 2nd Amendment. All they need is 1 more Supreme Court Justice to make it dead letter.


16 posted on 01/02/2009 9:13:01 AM PST by tvdog12345
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To: Oldpuppymax

When the left and their jack-booted thugs come for my guns, they’ll get them: bullets first!

BTW, I am better armed and equipped than any SWAT team, so they’d best send a company from the 82’d Airborne or a Mech Infantry/Armor unit to deal with me.


17 posted on 01/02/2009 10:01:38 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Maybe this will help:

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus_brady.html


18 posted on 01/02/2009 10:18:23 AM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: Labyrinthos
Question: Could she have carried her weapon openly in a holster on her hip?

Not sure about Texas, but here in Wisconsin open carry is legal (but will probably get you harrassed)

Another question: Isn't open carry more of a deterent to criminals than concealed carry?

I think concealed carry is more of a deterrent since the perps wouldn't know who, if anyone, was armed. If only open carry was allowed the perps could take a second to determine who was armed and proceed to take them out first.

19 posted on 01/02/2009 10:36:32 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Good points. Thanks.


20 posted on 01/02/2009 11:14:46 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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