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There is information where Obama funded anti Israel Palestine groups before he was elected to the senate through one of his boards.

And Obama felt it necessary to hide any interaction with Hamas with his people.

Monday, November 10, 2008 Israel Today Staff Report: Obama lied about firing anti-Israel advisor Robert Malley, a top Middle East advisor that US President-elect Barack Obama promised months ago would play no role in his administration due to ties to Hamas, has reportedly been sent out on the next administration's first diplomatic mission.

If a Presidential hopeful wanted to create chaos in America in order to impose martial law, in order to push through marxist ideology faster, who would you turn to? A man you funded and to get a head start send a person you told American citizens you had fired for his meetings with Hamas previously.

Warning: All supposition but very plausible in a Obama con world.

All I can think of is the Jewish that I know personally who hated Bush and adored Obama. Obama will save us. Obama is Israels friend. Alan Dershowitz is a huge supporter of Obama even when his articles will say, Obama needs to come clean. Dershowitz believes Obama is the best for the world. Dershowitz sold his people out from all of my research on Obama and Hamas ties. Was there another motive maybe?

Rahm Emmanual (dual citizenship by the way) was suppose to alert the Jewish population that Obama was on their side. What it did was alert everyone to Rahmbo's father being a bomber with the IRGUN/likud. You know, Rahmbo's father who said, "Obviously he will influence the president to be pro-Israel... Why wouldn't he be? What is he, an Arab? He's not going to clean the floors of the White House."

I pose this question to everyone who may know more than I. Do Jewish Americans care about Israel as much as we think they should? It is not a question of being mean spirited but I don't see the majority of them standing up for Israel. It's like many of them are disassociated because they were probably born in America? WTH is going on?!

26 posted on 01/02/2009 2:50:55 PM PST by MirandaRietz
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To: MirandaRietz

Do Jewish Americans care about Israel as much as we think they should? It is not a question of being mean spirited but I don’t see the majority of them standing up for Israel. It’s like many of them are disassociated because they were probably born in America? WTH is going on?!


For the last 35 years I have had fellow Jews tell me that they became ashamed of being Jewish when the Israeli Army became victorious. Many of them would prefer the destruction of Israel so that they don’t have to justify their hereditary relationship as Jews to their secular friends.

They are especially embarrassed by Chabad, which they define as a *cult*. To them, Orthodox Judaism, especially that which reaches out to secularized or fallen-away Jews, is an enemy, the same as Evangelical Christianity. This hatred of orthodox religion is what fueled the hatred of Sarah Palin, IMO.

Many of these people also believe the US *deserved* 9/11.

I now longer speak to any of them, including those I am related to by blood, so I don’t exactly know their present state of mind. I know that 8-10 years ago they sought to be seen as *good* in the Progressive definition. I doubt much has changed. If they were to be massacred they would blame Republicans, religious conservatives and *hawks*.

Conservative Jews are not the same as Progressive Jews. The Progressives have a death wish and they don’t even know it.


29 posted on 01/02/2009 3:13:36 PM PST by reformedliberal
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It is a peculiar irony that so many American Jews are so hateful against Israel and Zionism. They are doing OK here, so why care about a faraway land of bombings and revenge? They have lost their soul connection to a Jewish homeland. They have lost their compass.

It would be the same as if I lived in Europe and was doing well for myself, then when America exercised force to defend its interests, I would declare hatred for my homeland. It just doesn't make sense.

I will support Israel as much as I can, for practical reasons and for reasons which are in my soul. American Jews can do what they will. Perhaps I and many others see things which they do not. If you read the Bible (Torah), then you know that G-d supports Israel, and those who come against Jerusalem will be destroyed. I will bless those who bless Israel, and curse those who curse Israel, is what He said. Jerusalem will be a burdensome stone, is what He said. It is a burdensome stone, for sure. I choose to bless Israel.

49 posted on 01/03/2009 7:29:36 PM PST by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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