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To: Red Badger

Rob Juliano, I cast thee out! The power of thermodynamics compels you!


4 posted on 01/02/2009 1:33:39 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: TheWasteLand

That’s the first time I’ve had a good laugh in one of these hydrolysis threads.

Thanks for the chuckles.


27 posted on 01/02/2009 1:49:10 PM PST by NVDave
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To: TheWasteLand

“The power of thermodynamics compels you!”

LOL!


46 posted on 01/02/2009 2:10:43 PM PST by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: TheWasteLand

Hah! LOL


69 posted on 01/02/2009 2:51:55 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: TheWasteLand

LOL!


75 posted on 01/02/2009 3:01:39 PM PST by Anvilhead (Dammit Jim, I'm an Ameri-can not an Ameri-can't.)
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To: TheWasteLand

Critics of the “energy-from-water” hydrogen extraction concept are quick to cite the first law of thermodynamics, stating that a perpetual-motion machine is not possible. But they fail to note that no claim to such a machine is being made.

In insisting that hydrogen generators can’t work in cars, a false assumption is at work; that the existing car engine is an efficient closed energy loop - input equals output - with no spare energy for the electrolysis process. Since mileage improvement with hydrogen generators has already been observed, and since not all such improvements can be attributed to altered driving habits, the only possibility is that, with the alternator whirring away, the charging system can produce excess electrical energy, more than the engine needs. The hydrogen generator is merely using some of that available energy for electrolysis. Additionally, the resulting hydrogen in this case is supplementing gasoline, not replacing it; perhaps even improving gasoline combustion. No perpetual motion claim here.

So, yes, these devices do not (yet) violate the laws of thermodynamics. And, yes, they aren’t perfect. But it is finally time for a complete shift in thinking on the hydrogen issue.

You want proof? take a hydrogen generator like mine or several systems that product a liter per minute of HHO gas from a car battery. Have it run into the throttle body of the engine for 45 minutes “with out” the engine running. then, turn the car on.... BOOM!!! I know this for a fact, it was part of my testing and it is also the reason I have insurance for these types of installs. This blew the top end of the engine up.


132 posted on 02/22/2009 12:25:38 AM PST by juliano
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