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Russians Claim Their Drinking Prowess is a 'Myth'
The Telegraph ^ | 03 Jan 2009 | Miriam Elder

Posted on 01/04/2009 6:42:50 PM PST by nickcarraway

"Today, Russia doesn't look better or worse than the rest of the world," Evgeny Bryun, Moscow's chief physician, said this week.

Despite statistics that prove otherwise, Bryun said the image of the average Russian man as a vodka-swilling beer lover was simply a myth.

Russians only seriously began drinking after the end of the Second World War – and the party just lasted too long, he said.

"Soldiers got used to drinking at the front, they celebrated the victory, and this celebration lasted for a very long time," Bryun said.

Bryun's flippant comments stand in stark contrast to a state report released last year that documented a sharp rise in Russians' alcohol consumption.

The average Russian now drinks 15 litres of alcohol per year – up from 5.4 litres in 1990, the report by Russia's chief physician, Gennady Onishchenko, found.

In contrast, Brits drink an average of 11.2 litres per year and Americans take in 8.4 litres.

Alcohol causes one in eight deaths in Russia, and contributes heavily to the country's startlingly high mortality rates for men. The average Russian man only lives to the age of 61, while women, whose drinking is on the upswing according to the report, live til 74 on average.

That study found that 1.5 percent of Russia's population can be considered alcoholics, but Bryun himself said the number was likely higher.

Two per cent of the Moscow population could be considered alcoholics, he said, while 10 per cent indulged in drink every day, but hadn't been diagnosed with having a problem.

Drinking often gets worse over Russia's New Year holiday, which lasts a whopping ten days and sees the country shuts down completely. Stock markets are closed, no newspapers are published. Yet most liquor shops remain open, where a bottle of vodka can be

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Russia
KEYWORDS: alcoholism; myth
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1 posted on 01/04/2009 6:42:50 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Russians are the only people who can get cirrhosis of the car.
2 posted on 01/04/2009 6:46:58 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: nickcarraway

My college roommate went to Russia and he said the 16 year old girls could out drink him.


3 posted on 01/04/2009 6:47:42 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: nickcarraway
Long ago, back in college, before I wised up and quit drinking, I drank a Ukrainian/Russian fellow who had 100 lbs on me, under the table. He was unconscious and this skinny Irish boy was still upright.

I wish I had those brain cells back.

4 posted on 01/04/2009 6:49:20 PM PST by muir_redwoods (B. O. Stinks!!!)
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To: xcamel

While we Irish only drink enough to save the world, preserve all worthwhile culture and create new stories and songs, yet look at all the rumors about us.


5 posted on 01/04/2009 6:50:50 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Old Irish toast: May you be half an hour in Heaven before the Devil knows you're dead!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
6 posted on 01/04/2009 6:56:04 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

“While we Irish only drink enough to save the world, preserve all worthwhile culture and create new stories and songs, yet look at all the rumors about us.”

As old Uncle Patrick used to say, “We have a fondness for spirituous liquors—fermented ones too.” Cheers!


7 posted on 01/04/2009 6:58:51 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: nickcarraway

Did they mention the average age at death of a Russian male?

Also, did they happen to mention the abortion rate in Russia?

Did they mention the number of single women raising children in Russia?

Even though I love enjoying my adult beverages, just being able to put away large amounts of alcohol isn’t something to brag about.

I’m enjoying a Deschutes Brewery season beer called “Jubelale” right now. Next up, “Obsidian Stout”.


8 posted on 01/04/2009 7:08:50 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Fu-fu2

GOD Created Whiskey to keep the IRISH from taking over the WORLD!!

The Russians are just an AA Meeting looking for a PLACE to Happen!


9 posted on 01/04/2009 7:12:02 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's "1984" .. to Conservatives- a WARNING, to Liberals - a TEXTBOOK)
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To: Tailback

Been there 6 times... Myth? HAH!

Those people DRINK! They drink HARD! They drink EARLY!!! and, A LOT!!

Oh my... a myth?? BAHAHAHAHA!!!


10 posted on 01/04/2009 7:13:15 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( When you find yourself going through Hell, keep going!)
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Back in 1979, while living in Lake Placid, I ended up volunteering as an interpreter for the Russian Bobsled Team. Most called it World something something Competition... I called it my ... LOST WEEKEND!

To this day I still don’t remember MOST of it.


11 posted on 01/04/2009 7:15:54 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's "1984" .. to Conservatives- a WARNING, to Liberals - a TEXTBOOK)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Yeah Tim they DO drink HARD.

You didn’t answer my questions though.


12 posted on 01/04/2009 7:21:24 PM PST by Tailback
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To: nickcarraway

The actual statistics in Russia are frightening. The life expectancy of an average male is dismal, and heavy drinking is one of the biggest reasons.

Read the chapter on Russian in Marc Steyn’s “America Alone.”


13 posted on 01/04/2009 7:57:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I've heard Russians have taken to drinking antifreeze or windshield washer fluid when vodka is unavailable??

Reminds me of the scene in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" when Karen Allen outdrinks that fat Tibetan or Nepalonese guy.

14 posted on 01/04/2009 8:00:26 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Having read contemporary Russian, Ukrainian, Polish writers, I’ve got to tell you, outside of their works literary values, what emerges are disgustingly, depressingly alcoholic cultures.


15 posted on 01/04/2009 8:02:04 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Don't rush to be savage!.)
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Explaining how Russians manage to put away a couple of litres of Vodka and maintain verticality:

One hour before the party.

1. Eat a couple of boiled potatoes.
2. Drinks one or two raw eggs.
3. Drink one or two table-spoons of olive oil. Sunflower oil will also do.

Thus it’s guaranteed that at the Russian party you will stay sober for at least one bottle of vodka. I’m not kidding. Raw eggs are the most important part of Russian pre-party preparations.

At the party.

1. If you start drinking vodka – drink only vodka. No beer or wine. No water or juice. Carbonated drinks are taboo.
2. Drink vodka only in shots. Never sip.
3. Eat immediately after taking a shot. Russian zakuskis are often translated as appetizers. That’s not quite correct. Zakuskis are something you ‘zakusyvayesh’ with after taking a shot of vodka. They are very important to neutralize alcohol. That’s why they all contain two most important alcohol neutralizers – acid and salt. I recommend taking the following sequence:

- immediately after taking a shot – two slices of lemon;
- then some salted cucumbers, pickles, marinated tomatoes or caviar.
- then something with a lot of oil: herring (traditionally with cold boiled potatoes and onion), sardines, or shproty (small smoked sprats in olive oil);
- then traditional Russian salads, like Oliviye or Herring with boiled beet and mayonnaise. Almost all Russian salads come under heavy mayonnaise dressing. Remember – acid, salt, eggs and oil.

Ukrainians and Southern Russians prefer smoked lard with garlic but it’s a zakuska for professionals.


16 posted on 01/04/2009 8:02:47 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Explaining how Russians manage to put away a couple of litres of Vodka and maintain verticality:

No wonder Russians are so damn smart. They need a Masters degree to know how to drink!

17 posted on 01/04/2009 8:14:57 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah! Kneel before Obamohammad!)
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To: muir_redwoods
I wish I had those brain cells back.

From the words of Cliff Clavin, It makes you smarter..

18 posted on 01/04/2009 8:20:09 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve long thought drinking should be an Olympic sport. I spent years training for that day before I quit.


19 posted on 01/04/2009 8:28:51 PM PST by Pylon (You are gonna spend 20 dollars every month on paper towels anyway)
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To: nickcarraway
I've read where they drink or sell the de-icing fluid for their MIGs. Its supposed to be 90% ethyl alcohol making it basically Everclear. It accounted for a low state of readiness with the fighter interceptors having no de-icing fluid or the pilot too drunk to stand up let alone fly. There was an incident in the 70’s with a KAL plane ( pre KAL 007) blundering around in Soviet airspace for several hours while Soviet Air defense command looked for a sober pilot.
20 posted on 01/04/2009 8:36:37 PM PST by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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