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To: areukiddingme1

The kooks are starting to call in their markers. Their press thinks they made the anointed one and therefore own his future decisions. Get the popcorn, we could have a figurative crucifixion by passover.


3 posted on 01/05/2009 6:47:42 AM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Steamburg

Gays in the military. Larry the Cable Guy said it best...

Train seperate, fight together. The straight guys go in there and blow stuff up, there you send in the queers to put up curtains and clean the place up.


4 posted on 01/05/2009 6:50:13 AM PST by Cyclone59
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To: Steamburg

You’re underestimating how kooky the annointed one is himself. He’ll definitely try these things as soon as he has a chance. The question is whether the response will be fast enough and strong enough to deter him.

Frankly, I think we’re so cowed that he’ll get his way in all of the social programs he wishes to impose. And those social programs are his major goals, or at any rate, those of his handlers and brains, Ayers, Axelrod and Emmanuel, not to mention his vicious wife.


5 posted on 01/05/2009 6:53:23 AM PST by livius
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To: Steamburg
Actually, this issue has almost nothing to do with partisan politics and everything to do with military staffing needs.

If you want any evidence of that, just go back to the Clinton administration and recall how much vocal opposition there was among conservatives to the idea of having women serving in combat roles.

Fast-forward 8-10 years and notice how silent these so-called "conservatives" have been regarding the active participation of women in combat roles in the U.S. military campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's kinda funny how that opposition disappeared when it was a Republican sending them into combat.

9 posted on 01/05/2009 6:56:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Steamburg

“The kooks are starting to call in their markers.”

I agree. The problem that I have is not necessarily just with gays — the few that I have met in uniform and suspected were gay were relatively benign because they knew they had to present themselves in a certain manner and demeanor in order to be accepted and continue to have their rank respected. I’m afraid that if to “be out,” they drop all pretenses and make life for straight Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines unbearable.

However, in the case of overly feminine men — they did not enjoy the same respect that straight senior NCO’s received — however, put overly feminine/flamboyantly gay males in charge of group Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines and I can assure you that morale will break down. I would be concerned that enlistments would start to drop.

In addition, it has been my experience that gay men also come with a lot of emotional baggage about being gay — lots of alcohol and emotional problems. Not to mention the fact that Navy ships go to foreign ports — HIV/AIDS...there is an undisputed fact that remains that unprotected anal sex is the primary source of the spread of AIDS amongst men between the ages of 17-35...

Do we really need to do this “prove” it is a bad idea or can’t we just accept the comments made by then former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Colin Powell, who while speaking at the U.S. Naval Academy during one the Forrestal Lecture Series that he was quoted as saying; “homosexuality is not benign like race or color — it’s a choice,” he made that statement when answering a question of one of the young mid-shipmen sitting in the audience asked the question; “if your organization that you have sworn oath to, to uphold morals and values then changed its oath, what should that individual do.” General Powell’s response was; “resign.” Oh, but that’s right — that was then — this is now.


12 posted on 01/05/2009 7:15:36 AM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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