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Europe faces energy crisis as Vladimir Putin cuts Russian gas supply...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/4127173/Europe-faces-energy-crisis-as-Vladimir-Putin-cuts-Russian-gas-supply.html ^ | Jan 6th, 2009 | Miriam Elder

Posted on 01/06/2009 9:11:27 AM PST by TaraP

Europe has been plunged into an energy crisis after Vladimir Putin ordered Russia's state-run gas company to cut supplies by 20 per cent... As temperatures dropped below zero across much of Europe, the Russian prime minister instructed the head of Gazprom: "Cut it - starting today." The cut was ordered to punish neighbouring Ukraine, which Russia accuses of topping up its own gas supply by siphoning off energy meant for European consumers and sent through its pipelines. without paying Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; gasputin; gazprom; naturalgas; pppputinkgb; russia; russianthreat; ukraine

1 posted on 01/06/2009 9:11:27 AM PST by TaraP
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To: TaraP
The Rooskies prove again their love of blackmail.
2 posted on 01/06/2009 9:13:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: TaraP
HA HA.
I hope this teaches the Euro Socialists what happens when you trust the Neo-soviets. On the up side they will release a lot less greenhouse gas as they freeze to death.
3 posted on 01/06/2009 9:17:11 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: TaraP

Bush’s fault.


4 posted on 01/06/2009 9:18:08 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: TaraP

Gullibility, thy name is Europe. It must be in their DNA.


5 posted on 01/06/2009 9:18:49 AM PST by Hazwaste (Feeling bitter and clingy since 1963.)
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To: TaraP

ANY BETS THAT POOTIE IS GETTIN MORE POPULAR WITH THE INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENT CROWD?

2008, Russia’s Financial Annus Horribilis
http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/2009/01/

Russia’s RTS dollar-indexed stock market ended 2008 as the worst performing major equities market on the planet, down a breathtaking 72% over the course of the year. At the start of the year, Russia’s shamelessly profiteering stock brokerage firms had predicted a 50% gain with a year-end value of 3,000. The market actual closed out 2008 well below 650, less than a quarter of the value they had misled their customers into considering.


6 posted on 01/06/2009 9:22:33 AM PST by WellyP
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
How cruel are the commies? They have not changed at all since the wall came down. We heat our home with wood burning stove. In NY we had -7 reading a few weeks ago in the morning and temps for the most part have been colder this winter(with all that Global Warming!). I have never known what it was like to be cold in my life.

God Bless America. God, help these innocent people.

7 posted on 01/06/2009 9:29:34 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: TaraP
Russia faces economic crisis as Vladimir Putin cuts off Russia's Income

So, what is the next "sky is falling" issue I can comment on?

8 posted on 01/06/2009 9:59:20 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: TaraP

Vladimir Putin - the most popular Russian leader since Stalin. Figures...


9 posted on 01/06/2009 10:23:48 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: TaraP
The cut was ordered to punish neighbouring Ukraine, which Russia accuses of topping up its own gas supply by siphoning off energy meant for European consumers and sent through its pipelines. without paying Russia.

Actually, Ukraine said it would take what it needed from the pipeline if they couldn't come to a price agreement.

The answer is, for everyone involved, "diversify". If you are Russia, you need to find routes to market that don't cross through Ukraine, so that Kiev can't play games with the pipeline. If you're Ukraine, you have to find other sources of gas so that Russia can't play games with your gas supply. Paying full market price is the price of independence.

10 posted on 01/06/2009 10:52:09 AM PST by marron
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To: Hazwaste
What Europe should probably do is assemble some ground troops and invade Russia during the Winter.

lol /sarc

snicker snicker

Hey you with the woodburning stove - don't you know that harshly contributes to global warming (TM)?

11 posted on 01/06/2009 11:02:28 AM PST by mallardx
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To: TaraP
The cut was ordered to punish neighbouring Ukraine, which Russia accuses of topping up its own gas supply by siphoning off energy meant for European consumers and sent through its pipelines. without paying Russia.

Let's see .... Spring 2009. Russia invades Ukraine.

12 posted on 01/06/2009 11:14:50 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: se99tp; AdvisorB; onedoug; AnalogReigns; The_Media_never_lie; dixiebelle; voteNRA; valkyry1; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

13 posted on 01/06/2009 12:34:52 PM PST by lizol
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To: marron

Say, I’d like to run a pipeline through your yard and then charge you full price for the gas. Never mind that I am willing to pay you nothing for the use of your property... Russia is not asking for “market” price because they know if they turn off the gas they can get more.


14 posted on 01/07/2009 4:29:59 AM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: Camel Joe

Thats actually what is missing from these articles, the details of the agreements between Ukraine and Gazprom.

How much is Ukraine paying for gas, how much are her European neighbors paying, and how much does Gazprom pay for the use of the pipeline.

Ukraine gets a substantial discount compared to her neighbors. Thats part of the dispute, Russia wants to charge Ukraine the same as her neighbors. And my understanding is that Ukraine takes a percentage of the gas in payment for use of the pipeline and then in addition buys a bit more. Part of the dispute is that Russia claims that Ukraine is taking more than what the agreement allows, that in addition a certain percentage of the gas goes missing.

If you’ve got a link with details of the agreement, or details about what Gazprom charges the rest of Europe, I’d appreciate it. Most articles are pretty confusing on that point.


15 posted on 01/07/2009 9:55:43 AM PST by marron
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