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To: GunRunner

Fine. I thought you might be suggesting in the previous post that you were of Newdow’s kind of hysteria. I see no point in going down the road where one day children cannot wear a cross around their neck to school and the like.


144 posted on 01/19/2009 11:45:34 AM PST by Norman Bates (Steele for RNC)
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To: Norman Bates
If you really want to see how conservatives can be allies with secularists and atheists, you should watch the below debate:

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20070617_religion_politics_and_the_end_of_the_world/

Whatever your opinions of Sam Harris may be, he is absolutely on our side (along with Hitchens) on the dangers of fundamentalist Islam. There are multiple dynamics here at play, and with Obama being inaugurated tomorrow, you're going to see many more liberal believers like Hedges, who use Christianity and other methods of belief to hammer away liberal causes, and to take advantage of religion for their ends.

If you've got the time, and if you can stomach Bob Scheer as moderator (it's not easy), I'd ask you to listen to Harris, a committed atheist, and Hedges, a self described Christian who defends God and religion against Harris. Keep in mind that Truthdig is a group of Marxists posing as secularists, so don't let the intro fool you. Harris is at odds with their liberal audience during the whole debate. He makes great points against fundamentalism while his liberal opponents do nothing but apologize for Islam.

After that, ask yourself who you agree with more. I think you'll be surprised.

145 posted on 01/19/2009 9:43:00 PM PST by GunRunner
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