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To: usmcobra

“The difference in the Wong Kim Ark case is that his alien parents were legal residents that could not apply for citizenship under the law of the land at the time, every one that uses this argument glosses over the fact that under our laws at the time his parents could not become citizens.”

How is this a “difference”? I am at an utter loss as to explain how Wong Kim Ark’s parents being “legal residents that could not apply for citizenship under the law of the land at the time” is any different from your garden-variety child born “subject to the laws” of the U.S.

How do the particulars of the Wong Kim Ark case differ from Obama’s particulars as alleged in the Berg case, for instance? Obama’s mother and father were here legally, just like Wong Kim Ark’s parents, right? If Obama was born on U.S. soil, he would be a citizen from birth for the exact same reasons Wong Kim Ark was.


25 posted on 01/07/2009 2:14:29 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Obama’s father would have passed his citizenship to his son because at the time this country had entered into treaties that allowed that.

Was his father in this country legally, yes!
Was his father protected by a special visa from our laws or jurisdiction, that I have argued countless times.

Does our nation have the right to apply our citizenship to the children of those foreigners that are here for a brief stay, I contend that we do not have that right when they are here on a special visa that protects their citizenship IE: a diplomatic, student, or tourist visa, because their intent on visiting our nation is not to become a citizen of it.

Because his mother was not old enough to transfer her citizenship by the law of the land at the time, he should be a British citizen first and he has admitted that at least on his fight the smears website.

Ignoring the legalities involved as well as defining the scope of our countries jurisdiction to seat a foreigner as our president is something our founding fathers tried to prevent but writing the Natural born clause in the constitution, and it appears that the media on both sides of the spectrum are perfectly willing to ignore the issue to prevent rioting and a second civil war on our streets.

My biggest worry is that once he has power, what will he do to wrestle it away from our people permanently?

With the projected makeup of congress he could easily do so in a few short years.


34 posted on 01/07/2009 2:42:06 PM PST by usmcobra
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