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To: Red in Blue PA

“Worst economy since the Great Depression”, and it shows signs of being on the move to exceed even that calamitous era.

The “assistance” the nascent obama regime is planning to give to the economy shall have the perverse opposite effect.

Public works programs, “building the infrastructure”, are a band-aid solution, because it is not as if we were not already building and rebuilding infrastructure, rather, it is because too few resources are available to greatly expand the scope of what is already being done.

Expand the resource base. That means, ALLOWING this influx of capital to mine, extract, refine, and deliver the raw materials to the consumers, and give the consumers the opportunity to make intelligent choices as to how this flow of resources shall be applied.

Translated, this means that we begin extracting oil from the shale deposits of Utah and Colorado, go for the extraction of petroleum WHERE IT EXISTS, not demand that oil companies continue to drill useless dry holes in leased areas that do not and never will have reclaimable petroleum deposits. Technology DOES exist that assures the use of coal for a source of power will be as clean as using hydrogen as a secondary source.

One notion to be dismissed out of hand. Carbon Dioxide is NOT a pollutant. If it is, then all carbonated drinks must immediately be outlawed. And that is an absurdity. Carbon dioxide is absolutely essential for our existence, and with capable management of our already existing plant population on this planet, carbon dioxide will ALWAYS be contained in manageable quantities.

Taxing the sources of energy is a sure way to reduce the use of that source. The conversion of energy sources into energy is the true basis of wealth, and with the generation of wealth, there is the revenue that may be harvested for the benefit of administrating whatever degree of government need be applied.

Now, we come to the philosophy, what is government, and how much should it be shaped by the demands of those who have agreed to accept it, and how much should that government shape the people who choose to be its support.

Government and freedom are always at odds, and the balance has flowed back and forth between the two polar opposites throughout human history. At the moment, the weight seems to be falling on the side of MORE government, and LESS freedom.

We already have a document that spells out the level of balance between governance and expression of freedom. It would be refreshing to see it is actually applied.

Without resorting to asterisks and exceptions.


15 posted on 01/09/2009 6:21:04 AM PST by alloysteel (Balkanization - perhaps one of the few remaining ways to preserve American ideals.)
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To: alloysteel

“Translated, this means that we begin extracting oil from the shale deposits of Utah and Colorado, go for the extraction of petroleum WHERE IT EXISTS”

Exactly how do you force oil companies to do that when they would lose money at current oil prices?


32 posted on 01/09/2009 6:58:48 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: alloysteel

“Worst economy since the Great Depression”, and it shows signs of being on the move to exceed even that calamitous era.”

While it MAY be the worst economy since the Depression, it is completely laughable to suggest that is anywhere near that, OR, that it will get there, not to mention ‘be worse’.

It’s ridiculous. It is a recession. That’s it. It’s not a ‘catastrophe’. We haven’t had a good one (recession) in about 10 years. Recessions are needed, healthy parts of the business cycle, whereas the economy will eliminate the deadweight and come back much healthier and stronger.


44 posted on 01/09/2009 7:29:28 AM PST by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: alloysteel
One notion to be dismissed out of hand. Carbon Dioxide is NOT a pollutant.

Just imagine the fun if FDR had added a carbon tax to his other goodies. Now you have what the Obamanation will become.

50 posted on 01/09/2009 7:47:08 AM PST by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: alloysteel; All

Economy sure seems fine to me. We didn’t spend any less for Christmas due to the economy, and we aren’t wealthy by any means, not even upper middle class.

The company is having to tighten belts a bit, but other than that, nothing serious. Our salary is just the same as it was a couple months ago.

We don’t know any persons who have been laid off, fired etc.


67 posted on 01/09/2009 8:24:25 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: alloysteel

So, the Democrat solution to our economic problems is to fight Global Warming. OK. Spend trillions of dollars that we don’t have fighting a problem that doesn’t exist. Yeah, that’s the ticket!


123 posted on 01/09/2009 9:35:25 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The committed will surely dominate the complacent.)
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