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(Riverside, CA.) Inland Latino Population Growth Is 4th-Highest In The Nation
The Press Enterprise ^ | October 23, 2008 | David Olson

Posted on 01/09/2009 5:05:31 PM PST by real_patriotic_american

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To: farmer18th
A few facts about the newcomers: they don’t like taxes; they are sick of corruption (that’s what they grew up on); and they can’t stand cross-dressers. They are OUR people, no matter what the libtards say.

Corrections: they don't pay taxes but soak up all the taxpayer dollars in the forms of health care, education, food stamps, and every free handout they can find. And as far as corruption goes, do you really think that people that have no problem whatsoever breaking our laws as their first act here CARE about being honest?

They're not MY people. You can have 'em.
21 posted on 01/09/2009 8:08:46 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

You either fight them or change their ways, or have enough kids to out vote them. Which is it?


22 posted on 01/09/2009 8:20:03 PM PST by farmer18th (If I weren't so extremely intelligent, people would mistake me for George Clooney)
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To: real_patriotic_american

this is change that has always been, will always be....people flee to better places to live...just like a lot of our great grandparents or even earlier....the only ones who didn’t choose to be here are the black African slaves and their descendants..the rest of us come here by way of immigration...even the Indians came from somewhere else...


23 posted on 01/09/2009 8:50:54 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry
Except our immigrant great-grandparents didn't get welfare, WIC, food stamps, Section 8 housing, Earned Income Credits, etc.

They worked or starved. Period.

24 posted on 01/10/2009 12:15:03 AM PST by informavoracious
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To: cherry

Yes, President Bush said that we are a land of immigrants. But the passengers on the Mayflower didn’t come here trafficking illegal drugs, to commit terrorist acts, take advantage of our generous welfare system without paying taxes and so on..... Illegal immigration is destroying our economy. Note the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac housing collapse in the Southwest U.S. where owners, who shouldn’t have taken out a mortgage in the first place, are going into forclosure right and left.

You appear to be a Democrat?


25 posted on 01/10/2009 5:03:57 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: informavoracious

Right on! I agree with you 110%.


26 posted on 01/10/2009 5:05:49 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: farmer18th

we may have a chance to change their ways by the next election but it will take a major screwup by dems to do it - like iou’s for welfare checks - what isn’t mentioned in the article is, San Bernadino County, once a staunch Republican county, has now turned Democrat because of the relocation of hispanics/blacks from LA to the high desert as a result of the former housing boom in LA pricing out the minorities. (voting demographics for northern caalifornia also changing for same reason).

I had a transplant tell me the other day, ‘esta es Mexico’. I suggested he review the Treaty of Guadalupe and reminded him that California all the way to Texas had been bought and paid for twice, in money and blood, and we’d be happy to go at it a third time. The ‘tude disappeared almost as quickly as the commentor.


27 posted on 01/10/2009 5:31:37 AM PST by blueplum
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To: real_patriotic_american

And this means we can look for more elections just like the farce that just happened. We are importing socialism and anarchy.


28 posted on 01/10/2009 8:31:02 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: farmer18th

” We have to convert them, or go to war with them. A few facts about the newcomers: they don’t like taxes; they are sick of corruption (that’s what they grew up on); and they can’t stand cross-dressers. They are OUR people, no matter what the libtards say.”

As proved by this last election, you are wrong. They are simply encouraging the corruption they left and know how to live under. Why would they convert to conservatism, they LOVE socialism! And they love handouts even more, or they’d stay at HOME and deal with their own mess - like WE have to.


29 posted on 01/10/2009 8:34:43 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: AuntB

You’ll have no argument from me as to how they behave here—as a rule—because our system has poor fraud accounting controls and because they have taken advantage of it. The point here, though, is very simple: in addition to the fence, in addition to border controls, we need to CHANGE them, we need to make them into Americans. We need to win them over to the truth. The raw cultural ore is there. We just have to refine it. And if you haven’t had at least a half dozen children, and aren’t encouraging your kids to have kids, then I don’t want to hear anything from you.


30 posted on 01/10/2009 8:53:22 AM PST by farmer18th (If I weren't so extremely intelligent, people would mistake me for George Clooney)
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To: farmer18th

“And if you haven’t had at least a half dozen children, and aren’t encouraging your kids to have kids, then I don’t want to hear anything from you.”

I would have loved to had more kids. I was too busy supporting everyone elses.


31 posted on 01/10/2009 8:56:10 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: blueplum
we may have a chance to change their ways by the next election but it will take a major screwup by dems to do it - like iou’s for welfare checks

I haven't heard a real conservative argument from a California Republican for decades. We need to treat California like political missionary territory and say "repent, people, you have sinned. We have a better way---the truth."
32 posted on 01/10/2009 8:56:37 AM PST by farmer18th (If I weren't so extremely intelligent, people would mistake me for George Clooney)
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To: AuntB

Regarding kids: I’m sick of conservatives who average the 1.5 offspring and then complain about the voting demographic. That’s all.


33 posted on 01/10/2009 8:57:54 AM PST by farmer18th (If I weren't so extremely intelligent, people would mistake me for George Clooney)
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To: farmer18th

Sorry to say, a lot of us were taken in by the Zero Population Growth bull, and it’s too late for us to have more kids. We are, however, encouraging the kids we did have to have large families. I just hope those grandkids don’t end up being the slaves of the government.


34 posted on 01/10/2009 11:31:27 AM PST by informavoracious
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To: AuntB

Our country’s economical problems all stem from Southern California and illegal immigration. It’s time for elected officials and the authorities to enforce laws against illegal immigration.


35 posted on 01/10/2009 12:40:08 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: informavoracious

Yes, we need to teach the youth the benefits of Conservatism and the virtues of large families.


36 posted on 01/10/2009 5:56:38 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: farmer18th
You either fight them or change their ways, or have enough kids to out vote them. Which is it?

None of the above. Stick to conservative principles and the honest and intelligent people, of all races, will follow. Pandering to any one group doesn't work. Wasn't 2006 and 2008 a clue? And breeding out of control doesn't work either. That's irresponsible - trying to counter irresponsibility with more irresponsibility doesn't work. 2006 and 2008 lessons again.
37 posted on 01/10/2009 8:19:26 PM PST by CottonBall
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I would have loved to had more kids. I was too busy supporting everyone elses.

No doubt. You are responsible, AuntB. Those saying that everyone should be breeding out of control are no better than the illegals. It is typically the less educated that have huge families, according to the last census. I think everyone should have just as many kids as they want - as long as they can support them 100% on their own without taking one penny from taxpayers. This includes all education costs.

The only real solution would've been when Prop 187 passed to have had it implemented. When an activist judge overturned that, we were doomed. And no other action would have fixed the upcoming problems.
38 posted on 01/10/2009 8:23:51 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: cherry
...the only ones who didn’t choose to be here are the black African slaves and their descendants..

Not entirely true - there were a million or so Irishmen who were involuntarily deported to the New World during the Potato Famine because the English saw that as cheaper than trying to feed them.

39 posted on 01/10/2009 10:13:29 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: CottonBall

I agree! The GOP was hard right in 2004 and swept the Presidency, House and Senate.


40 posted on 01/11/2009 5:13:01 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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